Muslims think its ok to marry a girl pre age 10?

[bparker]

Honestly i was hoping someone here could comment on the coran saying that men can wed women younger than 13. I would like to know if it is there.

Maybe some of you can ask that have muslim friends?

I am leaving for europe tomorrow so I cant check this thread until i get back but i would love to know if its true.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by bparker

I am leaving for europe tomorrow ...

Better take some cash. They don't take credit cards in Europe.

[NewHummerGuy]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

Better take some cash. They don't take credit cards in Europe.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

Better take some cash. They don't take credit cards in Europe.

HAHAHAHA!!!!

And they don't have internet there in Europe so it sucks you can't check in till you come back.

[bparker]

LOL yep already sent a few grand ahead. But no bull sheet - I have tried to get my CCard Cos to work with me while abroad by calling them ahead of time and telling them which countries I will be in and after I use them once or twice they are disabled until I call them. But I cant call them from abroad as the phone charges are just stupid. So, I just take cash

What I meant when I said that is the mentality I have been exposed to which may be different fromt he norm is this - it is shameful to have to use credit cards as if you have to use credit cards to buy things that means you really dont have the money. You have to use a loan to buy simple things you "should" have cash to pay for them.

Thats what I meant not that they dont or wont its just a different mentality about "how" they use them. It is very rare for someone in the west to own outright property but in eastern europe its rare when a native does not own thier property outright.

[DennisAJC]

Why are you so worried about the government snooping into your life? Paranoid much? So you're paying cash huh? Something to hide?

[KenP]

Originally Posted by bparker

Honestly i was hoping someone here could comment on the coran saying that men can wed women younger than 13. I would like to know if it is there.

Maybe some of you can ask that have muslim friends?

I don't have any muslim friends.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by KenP

I don't have any muslim friends.

What did Hummbebe ever do to you?

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by Son of David

A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. - Ecclesiastes 10:19 (King James Version)

That's my favorite spiritual verse.

[MarineHawk]

Muslims and criminal defense lawyers are so alike: http://www.nbc10.com/news/10761790/detail.html

[h2co-pilot]

Look what Fox found out about the guy:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244263,00.html

He was born in New Jersey!!!





Abu Usamah at-Thahabi,, as seen in British Channel 4 report about radical clerics in the U.K.

NEW YORK ? A New Jersey-born Muslim cleric with links to a suspected Al Qaeda operative who surfaced at a college not far from the cleric's Peoria, Ill., mosque the day before the Sept. 11 attacks has found a new home.


The imam now is spewing his message of hate to a growing group of followers at a mosque in Birmingham, England.


His target: the United States, the United Kingdom, Christians and Jews.
Abu Usamah at-Thahabi, who preached at the Islamic Center of Peoria in 2001, is the subject of a British news documentary that revealed Monday how he regularly exhorts worshippers at the Green Lane Masjid, or mosque, in Birmingham to hate Westerners, whom he calls "pathological liars" and "kuffar," a derogatory term for non-Muslims.

Click here to view the British news documentary.
Abu Usamah also calls for the public crucifixion of all "kuffar" and says they should be "left there to bleed to death for three days."
Abu Usamah, who was born in New Jersey and is 42 or 43 years old, was the imam in Peoria when federal agents swooped down in December 2001 and arrested Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, a Qatari student at Bradley University, on charges that he used false documents to open bank accounts and was in possession of a telephone credit card used to call a number in Dubai that federal agents said was linked to reputed Al Qaeda financier and Sept. 11 organizer Mustafa al-Hawsawi.

Sources tell FOX News that Abu Usamah is a mysterious character ? no one, including federal agents and fellow imams, seems to know what his name was prior to his conversion to Islam.
But sources in Peoria say that though his public teachings there were moderate, he occasionally stepped over the line into anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Just prior to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, he called President Bush a "pathological liar" and constantly argued to his followers that "Jews controlled the media."

Al-Hawsawi, a Saudi known as the "Al Qaeda paymaster," reportedly funneled more than $325,000 to the Sept. 11 hijackers, though the 9/11 Commission reportedly could account for only $15,000.
Al-Hawsawi was arrested in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on March 1, 2003, by a joint U.S.-Pakistani operation against suspected Al Qaeda operatives. He reportedly is being held at the U.S. Bagram airbase in Afghanistan.
Al-Marri remains in custody and is awaiting trial by a military tribunal as an enemy combatant. Among the evidence reportedly seized by federal agents was Al-Marri's computer, which contained a folder labeled "jihad arena." According to court documents, the folder contained information on hydrogen cyanide, used in chemical weapons, and the teachings of Usama Bin Laden.


The Joint Intelligence Task Force for Combating Terrorism in its report said the information about hydrogen cyanide on Al-Marri's computer "far exceeds the interests of a merely curious individual." The task force report also alleges that Al-Marri was instructed by Al Qaeda to hack into the American banking system to wreak havoc on the U.S. economy.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

Look what Fox found out about the guy:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244263,00.html

He was born in New Jersey!!!

That explains why he hate teh woman so much.

He was probably bitch slapped to no end by the black woman. Most likely his mom, sisters, or big ass ex-girlfriends.

[KenP]

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran...riage_age.html

Originally Posted by quran

And try orphans (as regards their intelligence) until they reach the age of marriage; if then you find sound judgement in them, release their property to them, but consume it not wastefully, and hastily fearing that they should grow up, and whoever amongst guardians is rich, he should take no wages, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable (according to his work). And when you release their property to them, take witness in their presence; and Allah is All Sufficient in taking account. S. 4:6 Hilali-Khan

Commentaries:

(Prove orphans) test the intelligence of orphans (till they reach the marriageable age) the age of puberty; ? (Tanw?r al-Miqb?s min Tafs?r Ibn ?Abb?s; source; bold and italic emphasis ours)

Try, test, well the orphans, before reaching maturity with regard [the duties of] religion and [before] they can [legally] manage their own affairs, until they reach the age of marrying, that is, until they have become eligible for it through puberty or [legal] age, which, according to al-Shafi'i, is the completion of fifteen years; ? (Tafsir Al-Jalalayn; source; bold and underline emphasis ours)

<until they reach the age of marriage>, the age of puberty, according to Mujahid. The age of puberty according to the majority of scholars comes when the child has a wet dream. In his Sunan, Abu Dawud recorded that `Ali said, "I memorized these words from the Messenger of Allah, ?

However,

Muhammad is found violating his very own command since he married a girl who was nine years old:

Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

[KenP]

The problems are just starting for Muslims. Elsewhere in the Quran men are permitted to marry and divorce young girls who haven?t attained sexual maturity:

And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him. S. 65:4 Hilali-Khan

[bparker]

Good work KenP holy ****..

So is there is grass on the field play ball? rofl

And to marry a child is crazy then to bang it out at age nine? Thats wrong on so many levels.

Anyways so age 13 is game in print but by example age 9 is acceptable on occasions...

ya ponyal