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02-14-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
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Wow, that's about 1/2 the price for 6000 sqft. I only have 400 sqft. But, I have a time contraint here. 
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02-14-2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
Just bust out the Oxy/acetylene setup and go to town on the ground.
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02-14-2007, 06:53 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
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Just bust out the Oxy/acetylene setup and go to town on the ground.
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Three feet deep?
I'd have nice warm ground, and some cinders that I used to call "home". 
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02-14-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
Now is where I would post some pics of my S tanks and uber sexy Smith torch with some reassuring words, but its too cold outside for me to take pics. Good luck CO.
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02-14-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
Pick up a few of these torches,they hook up to propane tanks.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91037
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02-14-2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
Wait till Spring? Unless you Wife has liquidated damages on the project completion date  like mine usually does.
I can't imagine your flatwork and footings would be worth a sh*t if you poured in freezing temps anyway. No comparison to municipal projects by the way, they're using air-entrained, high strength blends with additives that tolerate a wider array of pour conditions.
What you're contractor is likely to pour for residential work is a totally different blend.
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02-14-2007, 07:23 PM
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I can't imagine your flatwork and footings would be worth a sh*t if you poured in freezing temps anyway.
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Hmmmm. Not sure what 'blend' they are going to pour. It will be about 4 feet deep - below the frost. The daytime temps vary a lot. Sometimes it's 50+. Or, it could be 12 like today. 
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Sweet! Thanks!! I was looking for those and forgot about old faithful HF.  I'm going to get one of these to melt snow on my roof. It won't do any good for 3 ft frost though.
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02-14-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
They unfreeze by driving the pipes into the ground, the pipes are then connected to a steam generator and steam is injected into the soil to thaw it. This method is probably not in your budget and is usually done in large excavation projects.
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02-14-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
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They unfreeze by driving the pipes into the ground, the pipes are then connected to a steam generator and steam is injected into the soil to thaw it. This method is probably not in your budget and is usually done in large excavation projects.
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I bet that's the method one of the outfits proposed. My builder/digger guy said he found one that wanted $5000 to do it.
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02-14-2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: Who knows how to unfreeze the ground?
I'd get an auger and drill evenly spaced holes 2 feet deep( For a 20' x 20', maybe 16 holes from a 6" auger bit.)
Fill with rock salt or de-icing pellets, and flood em with hot water from a hose directly from your hot water tank. That will definitely do the trick and the salt will keep the water from freezing up.
There are other ways, but they're not that enviromentally friendly. 
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