Great results from PCM for Less tuning . . .

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by keliente

I don't know what kind of 'chick thing' it is, sorry.

You know exactly what I mean.

[HummBebe]

Quote:
Originally Posted by keliente
You will see graphs from the colorado/canyon, which shares the same engine. Your problem with the H3 is that the AWD is going to eat up a little more power, but that doesn't mean great gains can't be had. Like I said before...this isn't just like bolting on an exhaust and getting 10 hp and a cool sound at wide open throttle. This is something that benefits you during your entire drive cycle, whether you've got it matted to the floor or not.


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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Awwww man, I almost went for it. Until I read this paragraph.

First the H3 is not AWD. There is a difference. PCM for less AND Rancho need to get this right before you will get an ounce of respect from me.

Splitting hairs....maybe.

Colorado/Canyon share the same engine, but from the factory they are tuned differently.

YOUR LINK IS TO A 2-3 YEAR OLD CANYON TUNE.

Please provide an updated tune...in private if you must.

teh proof is in teh puddin'.



Originally Posted by keliente
You're right - it is in 'teh puddin'. Look how many satisfied customers I have on this board and I don't even sponsor it yet




Quote:
Originally Posted by HummBebe
Nice....so no updated tune? Even a PM?


Originally Posted by keliente
I'm not sure what you mean by updated tune? I do each one as it comes in?



Quote:
Originally Posted by HummBebe
Meaning a graph with all those little squiggly lines on it..., that was done for an H3. Recently.

I can understand if you don't want to share proprietary information with the whole whirrled.

What about changing the shift points for hauling around a set of 35's, a roof rack, front winch bumper, winch, rock rail-side steps, 2 roof ladders and a rear bumper?

Can it do that? I'm really curious, I'm a girl, you know.....kinda dumb when it comes to all this techie stuff.



Originally Posted by keliente
Yes...the shift points are a large part of what we are doing with the transmission tuning. Some of our people on here have the 35's with the tune and tell us it makes a substantial difference.

I do not have any recent H3 graphs, sorry. The majority of truck folks (all trucks, not just H3) that stop by in person to get a tune aren't interested in ponying up the extra cash to get on the dyno. They want the seat of the pants difference...noticeable power, better shifting, etc etc and aren't really interested in knowing what it makes on the dyno.


Ok....


so now we are here:


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Originally Posted by HummBebe
Great, so you and I can have it out chick to chick.......please tell me which question of mine you answered???




Originally Posted by keliente
Why would we 'have it out'? I'm here to answer questions not fight.

I am not a Hummer owner.

You might have missed where I answered your question, here it is - post #44 in this thread:

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...0&postcount=44

As for the gear...yes the ordersheet asks all sorts of questions like that and also has a comment box at the bottom for other important information that you feel like you need to add.




Oh now you tell me....in other words, my vehicle would require a custom tune? How much is that?

[Gottmud]

Must be a full moon coming..

[Urban Ops]

[westhillsat]

I was out all afternoon,

I'm ordering mine NOW!!!!

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by westhillsat

I was out all afternoon,

I'm ordering mine NOW!!!!

Originally Posted by westhillsat

I was out all afternoon,

I'm ordering mine NOW!!!!

Westhillsat - Cool, let us know how you like it. I'm sure your feedback will be less of an "infocommercial".

[A.Anderson]

Hi,

My name is Alvin, I along with Bryan started PCMforless over 7 years ago doing mail order custom tuning for just about everything GM makes. In that time we have appeared in over 10 well known magazines and traveled all across the country doing dyno days and dyno tuning. We are known for our customer service.

We sell proven custom tailored tuning for how you drive and use your vehicle. Tow with your hummer? Like to run premium fuel? Using a different tire size? We can help, that's our job. We also do dyno tuning at both of our home offices in Indiana PA and Charlotte NC.

For those that are skeptical. I understand completely. Everyone is used to manufacturers coming out and claiming all kinds of neat and great things only to completely fail to deliver.

One thing is for certain. We are not a fly by night company. We have been doing this for quite a while and you can find our names on forums for corvettes, hummers, Colorado, trailblazers, camaros, GTO's, etc. I'll promise you that you'll have a very hard time finding anyone who is not pleased with our work.

Unlike just about any other performance parts manufacturer we offer a money back guarantee if your not happy with what we do for you.


So considering how widely known we are, how we offer a money back guarantee, and how many very happy customers there are even on this site I do not understand at all where all this brash accusing and name calling is coming from.

If you do not own one of our products or do not plan on at least trying one of them please have a little respect before bashing them or saying slanderous things like we copy other tuners. The things some people have been saying here are unfounded lies, totally unbiased, and unprovoked! You would have thought by reading their reply that we have pissed off a couple H3 customers already and stole thier money!


Shawn has worked closely with us and even wrote a article w/ us on how to tune your GM truck for Chevy High Performance magazine. (May 05? maybe he will back me up on the right article) He has seen the inner workings of our tuning and strategy. He is on here backing us up. Don't you think a man in his position would call us out if we sold snake oil? Go pick up a Chevy high performance magazine and see if we advertise in it.. We don't. They don't owe us anything.

Shawn (ChevyHighPerfomance) also backs us up with the cold hard facts that the Colorados and H3's are tuned exactly the same from the factory. Therefore both have the same shortcomings in the factory tune and both can stand to be optimized for each (and differently) for colorado and H3. The factory really did a hack job on these things. The dyno sheet is a good representation of what you will get in a H3 as they are the same engine. The performance gain is also noted by about everyone who has tried our tune on this site! If we where selling snake oil do you think they would have reported anything positive?


IF you think we are total BS than please don't buy anything form us. If you have any questions as to our service our product I'm sure others who have purchased and tried our tuning will be glad to comment.

If you have a technical question or what to talk to me personally you may call me at 704-307-4227.


To those who have given us a shot we greatly appreciate the comments you have made. I'm sorry we have a few people who want to ruin the good thing we have here.

Thank you
Alvin Anderson
Alvin@pcmforless.com


PS. It is my understanding that Kelly has been trying to get a hold of a moderator about advertising for a good couple weeks now. If a moderator happens to catch this message can you please get a hold of us for advertising information.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by A.Anderson

Hi,

My name is Alvin, I along with Bryan started PCMforless over 7 years ago doing mail order custom tuning for just about everything GM makes. In that time we have appeared in over 10 well known magazines and traveled all across the country doing dyno days and dyno tuning. We are known for our customer service.

We sell proven custom tailored tuning for how you drive and use your vehicle. Tow with your hummer? Like to run premium fuel? Using a different tire size? We can help, that's our job. We also do dyno tuning at both of our home offices in Indiana PA and Charlotte NC.

For those that are skeptical. I understand completely. Everyone is used to manufacturers coming out and claiming all kinds of neat and great things only to completely fail to deliver.

One thing is for certain. We are not a fly by night company. We have been doing this for quite a while and you can find our names on forums for corvettes, hummers, Colorado, trailblazers, camaros, GTO's, etc. I'll promise you that you'll have a very hard time finding anyone who is not pleased with our work.

Unlike just about any other performance parts manufacturer we offer a money back guarantee if your not happy with what we do for you.


So considering how widely known we are, how we offer a money back guarantee, and how many very happy customers there are even on this site I do not understand at all where all this brash accusing and name calling is coming from.

If you do not own one of our products or do not plan on at least trying one of them please have a little respect before bashing them or saying slanderous things like we copy other tuners. The things some people have been saying here are unfounded lies, totally unbiased, and unprovoked! You would have thought by reading their reply that we have pissed off a couple H3 customers already and stole thier money!


Shawn has worked closely with us and even wrote a article w/ us on how to tune your GM truck for Chevy High Performance magazine. (May 05? maybe he will back me up on the right article) He has seen the inner workings of our tuning and strategy. He is on here backing us up. Don't you think a man in his position would call us out if we sold snake oil? Go pick up a Chevy high performance magazine and see if we advertise in it.. We don't. They don't owe us anything.

Shawn (ChevyHighPerfomance) also backs us up with the cold hard facts that the Colorados and H3's are tuned exactly the same from the factory. Therefore both have the same shortcomings in the factory tune and both can stand to be optimized for each (and differently) for colorado and H3. The factory really did a hack job on these things. The dyno sheet is a good representation of what you will get in a H3 as they are the same engine. The performance gain is also noted by about everyone who has tried our tune on this site! If we where selling snake oil do you think they would have reported anything positive?


IF you think we are total BS than please don't buy anything form us. If you have any questions as to our service our product I'm sure others who have purchased and tried our tuning will be glad to comment.

If you have a technical question or what to talk to me personally you may call me at 704-307-4227.


To those who have given us a shot we greatly appreciate the comments you have made. I'm sorry we have a few people who want to ruin the good thing we have here.

Thank you
Alvin Anderson
Alvin@pcmforless.com


PS. It is my understanding that Kelly has been trying to get a hold of a moderator about advertising for a good couple weeks now. If a moderator happens to catch this message can you please get a hold of us for advertising information.

OK....I think you have been heard.

One more time Alvin....AWD or 4WD?

[westhillsat]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

OK....I think you have been heard.

One more time Alvin....AWD or 4WD?

You get to pick on the order form, I picked 4WD

[DRTYFN]

I still want to know if alvin & keliente live together.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by keliente

Originally Posted by westhillsat

You get to pick on the order form, I picked 4WD

I saw that....but she stated the H3 was an AWD. There is a difference.

And just for the record, I had been entirely polite until she started giving me smart ass answers with dancing bananas.

I wish them success. I am in the customer service business, no matter how pissed I get at the client....it never gets this out of control.

Control the sale.

If you don't know, say I DON'T KNOW. I will ask and get back to you.

If you are unable to answer because you would be divulging proprietary information....say so.

Be honest.

If she were my sales person, she'd be off the phones and in a file room pronto stat.

[tomp]

So Alvin, maybe you are the one we need here to be able to answer questions? There are some very knowledgable members here and expect a technically inclined answer when ones due.

Please explain to us how this "personal" tuning is accomplished/accurate when they are done in-house and not on a track or dyno? Where the initial maps created at least in this fashion? This would be an acceptable approach, providing they are down-tuned to allow for variances in weight, wind, towing etc.

We were not getting the answers we were looking for, thus I am assuming is the reason you posted. Please explain the above. Thanks!

[A.Anderson]

Originally Posted by tomp

So Alvin, maybe you are the one we need here to be able to answer questions? There are some very knowledgable members here and expect a technically inclined answer when ones due.

Please explain to us how this "personal" tuning is accomplished/accurate when they are done in-house and not on a track or dyno? Where the initial maps created at least in this fashion? This would be an acceptable approach, providing they are down-tuned to allow for variances in weight, wind, towing etc.

We were not getting the answers we were looking for, thus I am assuming is the reason you posted. Please explain the above. Thanks!

Kelly is perfectly able to answer these questions. However calling her/us names is not the right way to initiate conversation with anyone.

GM puts tons of nanny controls on the PCM. They also tune for the worst available gas (lower than 87 octane). On top of that they set the trans shift points up so soccer moms don't complain because they can actually feel them. You have to think in terms of GM. They do not know if you are going to try to tow big loads around, totally abuse the truck, or run the worst gas you can find.. All they know is they have to replace hard parts if you are that 16 year old kid that likes to do burnouts and donuts. Therefore they put a nanny settings in all production vehicles.

We ask questions on the ordersheets about your towing capacity so we can get a feel on how you are going to use your truck. We also have 3 different shift maps including firmness, TCC lockup, and trans shift points for you to choose from so you get your taste in shifting all the way from weak to firm. We also have around 17 different base programs we pick out biased on your modifications for different intakes, levels of modifications to the exhaust. We also have 3 different settings for towing which changes how we set up the shift points (again), how much part throttle advance we run, and what AFR we set to target on high loads.

This goes on and on.. I guess the best way to get a judgement on what we use to build a custom tune is to get on our website and look at our ordersheet.

We have worked this down to a science with R&D vehicles and TONS of experience tuning everything from totally stock vehicles to cars like a 99 TA that runs 9.77 naturally aspirated, 93 octane, drag radials, and chambered exhaust. (You should see that very soon in a GM high tech article titled "LS1 vs. LT1 shootout"



As for the other question H3's are full time 4WD. I think Kelly said they where AWD earlier. Don't you think that is kind of a nit picky thing to try to demean her with?

[A.Anderson]

You can find our physical address on our website under contact us. Pick your vehicle and it will show you what address serves you.

Also, I don't think the fact that Kelly is my wife (in a couple months) and we do live together is any of your business

[tomp]

GM is not doing anything uncommon...All production EPA approved vehicles factory tune in this manner.

And get over the turd comment. You guys keep bringing it up after I admitted/apolgized it was off base quite some time ago. Jeese....

So from the way I understand it, you are saying that you are picking from pre-built maps based on how the customer responds to some questions.

So there is no custom tuning being performed and these are all base/canned maps assembled togther into one load.

You see, at least when I do it from Harley customers I have them a data recording and send me their data file first so they are actually getting a custom tune and not something I assembled from some questions they answered. I have them do this before and after file creation to ensure the knowck sensor does not get activated (something you will never know without ECM data file recordings)

You answered my question. Thank you very much!

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by A.Anderson

As for the other question H3's are full time 4WD. I think Kelly said they where AWD earlier. Don't you think that is kind of a nit picky thing to try to demean her with?

I admitted I was splitting hairs when I said it. All she had to do was correct herself.

Just like the guy at 4 WHEEL PARTS, who swore up and down...argued with me that my H3 had air ride suspension, that it was spring over, and that it was built on a trail blazer platform.

Rancho lists the H3 as an AWD vehicle. The same guy at 4 wheel parts, sold me my shocks after I told him my Torsion bars were turned in order to accommodate my 35" tires.

He sold me the shocks, but said nothing to me about "custom applications" not being warrantied. No biggie, I didn't throw a fit, I just replaced the shock 4 times at $90 bucks a pop.

Will I buy Rancho again....no way. Will I shop at 4 Wheel Parts....not a chance.

So the moral of the story is....Be suspicious of people who tell you the H3 is AWD.

[westhillsat]

And lets note that 4 members of this forum were discussing this before Kelly posted on this thread.


She didn't start the thread, just stepped in to answer questions.


And as a 48 year old old fart, I don't have a problem with that!!!!!!!

[westhillsat]

This took me 1 minute.




Alvin's Ship to address Contact info:Kelly KorbasASE Certified Tech, Phone Sales, Support, Order StatusAlvin AndersonEngineer, Tuner, Technical SupportTelephone:(704)-307-4227(Office)Hours:M-F 9AM-5PM EST

Ship To:

PCMforless7412 Claymont DriveCharlotte, NC28227Vehicle Supported:All V6 Cars (excludes trucks)I4 I5 and I6 trucks (Colorado, Canyon, H3, Trailblazer, etc)93 and older Cars95 and older OBD1 TrucksI4 Ecotech 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 Trailblazer V8 including 5.3L and 6.0L SS

It's on their website





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