Great results from PCM for Less tuning . . .

lotus4s · #1 03-18-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DemoDaddy79

X2

I asked them for the discount and they would not offer it to me, so I didn't buy one. I will not buy one until they offer the same discount to us (as the hummer forum). I see no reason why I should pay more just because some of our members (who have every right) do not like thier product. I don't care what anyone says that is the reason they have not offered us the discount.

It isn't the money it is the principle of the matter.

The only problem with that is the people who don't like it do so without firsthand knowledge of the product and/or wanted to wage a war of words over H3 semantics. As far as I've seen, no one who has actually tried PCM for less has had anything negative to say.

So in other words it's a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face....

Demo · #2 03-19-2007, 04:34 AM

Anybody got a dead horse, so I can beat it?

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A.Anderson · #4 03-20-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lotus4s

The only problem with that is the people who don't like it do so without firsthand knowledge of the product and/or wanted to wage a war of words over H3 semantics. As far as I've seen, no one who has actually tried PCM for less has had anything negative to say.

This is very true.

Furthermore we have been back to regular pricing for quite some time now, no matter what site you post on.

wpage · #5 03-20-2007, 07:03 PM

Sounds like a lost oppurtunity for PCM...

westhillsat · #6 03-20-2007, 07:37 PM

I paid full price.

If you can't cough up the regular price

evldave · #7 03-20-2007, 08:23 PM

ok, since this is the Thread That Won't Die, a question for PCMforless or F5 (or anyone else who wants to chime in on the topic).

For $149, I'm not overly concerned with the price of the new PCM, but I've started getting the dreaded 'rough idle' that seems to be the precursor to the head problem. Any thoughts on whether updating my PCM would exacerbate the problem or cause it to kick off the check engine light sooner?

HummBebe · #8 03-20-2007, 10:58 PM

Demo · #9 03-20-2007, 11:14 PM

The clapping was for me, in case anyone is confuz ed.
You ain't gettin my money till you give me a deal

. I would rather go spend more money on my own programing device and learn how to use it, rather that pay you 50 dollars more than I feel I should

.
I am very Taurus, ask my wife.

Probably doesn't bother you, but that's how I roll.

PS West be on my side,

Demo · #10 03-20-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by evldave

ok, since this is the Thread That Won't Die, a question for PCMforless or F5 (or anyone else who wants to chime in on the topic).

For $149, I'm not overly concerned with the price of the new PCM, but I've started getting the dreaded 'rough idle' that seems to be the precursor to the head problem. Any thoughts on whether updating my PCM would exacerbate the problem or cause it to kick off the check engine light sooner?

In my un educated guess, I would say DO NOT get the PCM update until your head problem has been fixed. You could loose your programming and have to pay another 50 bucks to get it reprogrammed, plus it would just be silly.

Oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken the PCM is now $199 not $149 unless you are getting a deal then I would be

if I didn't get it too cause in am a

so says west

evldave · #11 03-21-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DemoDaddy79

In my un educated guess, I would say DO NOT get the PCM update until your head problem has been fixed. You could loose your programming and have to pay another 50 bucks to get it reprogrammed, plus it would just be silly.

Not so sure about that...

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Originally Posted by Keliente

Or if they overwrite it, just send it back in, cover shipping, and we will reflash it for free.

Shipping charges are cheap (except downtime on the rig

) I'm not too concerned about the potential reflash, more concerned if it will have an impact on the engine if there is a head problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemoDaddy79

Oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken the PCM is now $199 not $149 unless you are getting a deal then I would be

if I didn't get it too cause in am a

so says west

No special deal, I didn't realize the price was $199, I'm 99% sure it was $149 some time back. At $199 it's a little harder to swallow, will have to think about it for awhile...

westhillsat · #12 03-21-2007, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemoDaddy79

In my un educated guess, I would say DO NOT get the PCM update until your head problem has been fixed. You could loose your programming and have to pay another 50 bucks to get it reprogrammed, plus it would just be silly.

Oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken the PCM is now $199 not $149 unless you are getting a deal then I would be

if I didn't get it too cause in am a

so says west

X2 on not doing it if a head problem is looming, I'd definately wait.

Demo

A.Anderson · #13 03-21-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by evldave

ok, since this is the Thread That Won't Die, a question for PCMforless or F5 (or anyone else who wants to chime in on the topic).

For $149, I'm not overly concerned with the price of the new PCM, but I've started getting the dreaded 'rough idle' that seems to be the precursor to the head problem. Any thoughts on whether updating my PCM would exacerbate the problem or cause it to kick off the check engine light sooner?

If you feel that the rough idle is coming than you should probally check in at the dealer soon. There is some factory "issues" with idle and deceleration tuning where the pedal is closed and the truck run a bit rough. We can clean that up quite a bit (part of our normal tune up)

As far as the price guys. The special we ran was nothing to do with this website or that website. It was an introductary special to promote our new (not new anymore) H3 tuning. I'm sorry that you didn't see the special but being hostile is not going to get anywhere with us. In the meantime we will continue to make happy customers at our normal price of $199 unless we feel the need to run another special.

There have been nothing but satisfied and happy customers coming from us. If you do not feel that extra $50 is worth it than fine do not buy it. Hell the gas mileage improvement alone will pay for the extra $50 in no time.

evldave · #14 03-22-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by A.Anderson

If you feel that the rough idle is coming than you should probally check in at the dealer soon. There is some factory "issues" with idle and deceleration tuning where the pedal is closed and the truck run a bit rough. We can clean that up quite a bit (part of our normal tune up)

As far as the price guys. The special we ran was nothing to do with this website or that website. It was an introductary special to promote our new (not new anymore) H3 tuning. I'm sorry that you didn't see the special but being hostile is not going to get anywhere with us. In the meantime we will continue to make happy customers at our normal price of $199 unless we feel the need to run another special.

There have been nothing but satisfied and happy customers coming from us. If you do not feel that extra $50 is worth it than fine do not buy it. Hell the gas mileage improvement alone will pay for the extra $50 in no time.

ok, so nowhere did I bi*ch about the cost being an extra $50. In fact, somewhere I defended the fact it was a good price even at $200. Now you turn into a cockknocker? I was never hostile, in fact I was DEFENDING you.

Basic customer service (I was CS manager), you do not vilify your customers, no matter how much it pisses you off. Good discussion, disagreement, no problem (the customer isn't always right). But to turn into a complete f*cknut is absolutely ridiculous. I was seriously considering this at $200, and now there is not only NO CHANCE I will buy your tune, I will likely bash you not because of your prices which are reasonable, but because you are an ASS!

rjmoose · #15 03-21-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by westhillsat

I paid full price.

If you can't cough up the regular price

Did you pay sticker price for your H3 also?

I would rather be a

and have an extra $50 in my pocket!!!

I am with all the other cheapskates, I mean, shrewd people on this forum....

Yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

evldave · #16 03-21-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rjmoose

Did you pay sticker price for your H3 also?

I paid almost sticker, and haven't looked back. Depending on where you are and when you bought your H3, you may or may not have gotten a good deal. I still see used H3s going for way higher than you would expect for any used car.

As for this, $199 is a good price. The chip for my 325i was something like $299, and that was a chip which is way more of a PITA to install. Go get yourself a shark program and it might be $399 or $499. Buy your own programmer and you are looking at roughly the same cost.

I can completely understand people challenging the effectiveness of these programs. It's justified to make sure this isn't modern electronic snakeoil and to look for dyno results and other potential issues. But to whine about the price, even at $199, shows a complete lack of understanding of aftermarket tuning and the costs that go with it. If you don't want to spend $199 (and I'm not sure I do yet, not because it's not a good deal but because I may not have the $$), then please shut up and stop wasting bandwidth on this forum.

rjmoose · #17 03-21-2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by evldave

...If you don't want to spend $199...then please shut up and stop wasting bandwidth on this forum...

Oh yah, well you're ugly!!!

westhillsat · #18 03-21-2007, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjmoose

Did you pay sticker price for your H3 also?

I would rather be a

and have an extra $50 in my pocket!!!

I am with all the other cheapskates, I mean, shrewd people on this forum....

Yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Actually I got it for a couple hundred over invoice through the COSTCO auto program on the first one from the factory.

And I got the headrest dvd's for $299 installed

And when I buy other vehicles, I only deal with the fleet department, not a regular salesperson.

Demo · #19 03-21-2007, 06:31 AM

West

I didn't pay full price for my H3, much less.

That is cool that they will reprogram it for you if it gets flashed by the dealer.

If I didn't know there was a deal on the PCM before, It wouldn't bother me to pay full price, I am just OCD and can't get over it.

This thread just won't die.

A.Anderson · #20 03-21-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lotus4s

The only problem with that is the people who don't like it do so without firsthand knowledge of the product and/or wanted to wage a war of words over H3 semantics. As far as I've seen, no one who has actually tried PCM for less has had anything negative to say.

So in other words it's a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face....

Thanks for pointing out who is the ones causing us trouble. It in fact is not our customers.

You are wrong though, there is no spite involved in this. It was a introductary special that ran I think for over 6 months. I'm sorry if you didn't see it or realize it was going on but its over.

Honestly I remeber hearing that a coke and a movie was less than 20cent. Doesn't mean I can still get the same deal!

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