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Old 04-03-2007, 08:59 PM
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The early VW Toureg V6's have an even worst power to weight ratio when compared to the 3.5 H3. (And so does the rarely seen V6 LR3 for that matter). I personally know a car buff with a V6 Toureg as a commuter rig and the first week he leased it, he was complaining about the power.

Why is the unibody VW so heavy at over 5000 lbs? Typically unibody construction results in a lighter curb weight.

I read a comparison road test many months ago (actually offroad test) and the VW was creaking as the doors moved in the twisting frames. A fully boxed frame is preferred for that type of abuse. Recently I read that Toureg sales have declined into the range of 10,000 units/year in the US, not a good sign.

I have 35,000 miles on my H3, no rattles so far. I wondering if the head will last before the first rattle.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:11 PM
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I have 35,000 miles on my H3, no rattles so far. I wondering if the head will last before the first rattle.

x2. 31,000 miles here, no head issues, no rattles. I'll just keep driving the hell out of it and hope nothing bad happens
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:19 PM
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x2. 31,000 miles here, no head issues, no rattles. I'll just keep driving the hell out of it and hope nothing bad happens

Same here, no mercy. Still enjoying it daily!
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The early VW Touareg V6's have an even worst power to weight ratio when compared to the 3.5 H3.

HP to weight is only relevant in equal running gear. The T is underpowered but the drive ability is quite good because of the 6-sp and my commuting mileage is good for a vehicle that heavy at about 20 - 21 MPG.

That's why my comments about a 6-sp for the H3. Also, being able to manually shift while off roading and even in low range is awesome.

We should be demanding one for the H3.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:40 AM
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Spuds,

I agree with Huck. My brother in law drives a Touareg. It's a decent SUV for snow and great in city driving. We took them on some easy trails together, they are not good off road.

My take is that when the engineers sit down to put a vehicle together they have criteria in mind that is developed for their target demographic. The Hummers demographic is off road. The vehicle is designed around that philosophy, the volkswagen appears to me to be much more about the on road driving. Compromises will be required to fit in as many different buyers into the demographic as possible while still maintaining the target.

Hummer should have a front locker on the new Alpha as far as I'm concerned, but the blingers probably have more say than I do on the vehicle right now. There is more of them.

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Old 04-04-2007, 12:40 AM
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HP to weight is only relevant in equal running gear. The T is underpowered but the drive ability is quite good because of the 6-sp and my commuting mileage is good for a vehicle that heavy at about 20 - 21 MPG.

That's why my comments about a 6-sp for the H3. Also, being able to manually shift while off roading and even in low range is awesome.

We should be demanding one for the H3.

I agree that a 5 speed or 6 speed would be a great improvement to the H3 (or just about any vehicle with a 4 speed tranny). I would certainly like one.

The 20-21mpg with the VW is also the result of better aerodynamics/lower profile, street tires, and the amazingly slow highway speed that you are able to maintain. Vehicles that are biased towards offroad ability tend to sacrifice highway gas mileage.
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This will change my opinion of the H3.

Not of the owners. Just the car itself.
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Feeble, downright anemic.

Come on dude, you're an AE troll - the sky's the limit. That's the best you got?

That's not even worth the effort. You gotta step it up.
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