New 2008 Liberty

[RazM]

Originally Posted by Mooncricket

I'm a jeep owner and I'm not mad at the world at all, or jeep for that matter.........

The wrangler TJ still will walk over your turd boxes with minor mods, as well as the new JK... and the other vehicles in their line-up are nice for daily driving commuter vehicles. The Grand Cherokee is a very comfortable, nice, powerful, fun car to drive around. The new 08 with the 6 cylinder turbo diesel with be VERY NICE...... .........Most "jeep owners" as you put it understand that if they want true off-road capability, to get the wrangler. But comparing jeep models to models from other's I dont see why you would think jeep owners and jeep are going downhill........??? The only turd in the line-up I see is the Compass.....

You pointed out the exact problem I have with Jeep's. They seperate comfort and capability. You want luxury? Buy a Commander or GC, you want capability? Buy the JK (although you still can't fit 35's on without a lift )

They have 7 models now, 2 of which can be considered capable, everything else are street queens, and 3 of which or HORRIBLE street queens.

Jeep has turned into a bloated portfolio designed by people who have no clue in what direction to take Jeep into.

[RazM]

Oh, let me add the Commander is soon to be gone, didn't sell well enough... Hmm I wonder why!?

Looks better than the old Liberty, but still not as nice as the H3. I also don't see what's so great about the canvas top. For the front seat passengers it's not much better than a big glass moonroof. And the potential for damage, leaks, noise is much higher.

The H3 has one of the biggest and best sunroofs in the business so far.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose

The H3 has one of the biggest and best sunroofs in the business so far.

As far as single panels go. There are some much, much bigger multi-panel sunroofs, which I would prefer over the canvas personally.

[dochummer]

I like my LR3 with the skylights...