JET or PCM for less???? Need direction.

[HummBebe]

Are you guys all believing that the Canyon/Colorado is the same truck?

What about gearing?
Power to weight ratios?
You can't put 35's on a C/C.

The H3's are HEAVY. C/C is a truck with a bed on it.


I'm not saying it does not change it, I'm asking how we know it is optimal?

I'd rather have a stranger with a laptop ride around with me in several different driving situations collecting data, and optimize it real life.

If you go back to that forum and do some research, there are a good number of people complaining about it.

Check it out.

[ETD]

Going for the PCMforless doohickey myself. Won't be shy to let y'all know if it did nothing, worsened, or, improved things. (BTW, tried to call twice about something, no big deal but, got a voice recording each time - so customer service isn't exemplary if you'd care to know.)

The way I figured was I wanted to spend some money on the truck and the choices were new air-intake, exhaust, or computer software. I didn't really need any data such as dyno because these have really been more for marketing. Have y'all looked at the K& N dyno for example? The RPM that the truck must function in inorder to see a difference is NOT REAL WORLD. So why does it seem to me that people put in new air intake system without batting an eye lid (same with exhaust) as if it should do anything to the truck especially when the OEM setup is ALREADY COLD AIR .
Anyways, what I'm saying, is sometimes decisions to "accessorize" the truck don't have to be logical. How else can you explain all the BLING??

[ETD]

BTW, the other software solution is...http://www.teakatoys.com/Hummer_H3_C...p/z-h3comp.htm

Sounds similar to PCMforless. I wonder if someone would consider comparing the two. Hmmm....

Originally Posted by ETD

Going for the PCMforless doohickey myself. Won't be shy to let y'all know if it did nothing, worsened, or, improved things. (BTW, tried to call twice about something, no big deal but, got a voice recording each time - so customer service isn't exemplary if you'd care to know.)

The way I figured was I wanted to spend some money on the truck and the choices were new air-intake, exhaust, or computer software. I didn't really need any data such as dyno because these have really been more for marketing. Have y'all looked at the K& N dyno for example? The RPM that the truck must function in inorder to see a difference is NOT REAL WORLD. So why does it seem to me that people put in new air intake system without batting an eye lid (same with exhaust) as if it should do anything to the truck especially when the OEM setup is ALREADY COLD AIR .
Anyways, what I'm saying, is sometimes decisions to "accessorize" the truck don't have to be logical. How else can you explain all the BLING??

I'll wait patiently for your opinion, appreciate your objective approach to the mod.

[HoosierH3]

Ok...Sorry i opened this can of worms again. I realize it has been debated multiple other times here and this thread is starting to look exactly the same as the other threads regarding PCM for less. I was just hoping for some input on JET, but obviously, no body has tried one.

HummBebe-I can't quite understand the negativity and doubt from you, since you have no real direct experience with PCM for less (It looks to me that you never used them?) nor any other programming company from what I've read on this site (Looks to me that you are running the stock computer waiting for the world to end that maybe a "proven" "dyno'd" program will arrive with the second coming??? It seams that you are out to bash PCM for some reason. Yes, Multi Million dollar Dyno testing would look great on paper, but what would it really prove? Bottom line, I'm looking for seat of the pants return for my dollar. As it was stated, new intake systems and aftermarket exhaust provide the majority of their performance at WOT which is just not realistic for a daily driver. I'm looking to improve the daily drivability of a poorly tuned stock factory vehicle.

I don't quite trust the other site that was mentioned, http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=44414. It seams they censor anything they don't agree with and a bunch of Colorado owners running around tuning each other's vehicles for the cost of their gas does not seem to "proven" either.

I think this post has led my decision toward using PCM for less as their legit competitors are charging considerably more. I've got a service date coming up next week, after that, I'll be contacting PCM. I'll post back afterward with my confirmed results.
Hoosier

[westhillsat]

TOTALLY HAPPY WITH MY PCMFORLESS TUNE!!!!

And if ChevyHighPerformance is satisfied with his research on them, so am I.

AND I FIND IT PRETTY SAD, WHOEVER PUT THE ORIGINAL THREAD IN THE WOODSHED
GET REAL!!!

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by westhillsat

AND I FIND IT PRETTY SAD, WHOEVER PUT THE ORIGINAL THREAD IN THE WOODSHED
GET REAL!!!

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Was it an infocommercial?

[westhillsat]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Here come the dancing bananas

[westhillsat]

Originally Posted by HoosierH3

Ok...Sorry i opened this can of worms again. I realize it has been debated multiple other times here and this thread is starting to look exactly the same as the other threads regarding PCM for less. I was just hoping for some input on JET, but obviously, no body has tried one.

HummBebe-I can't quite understand the negativity and doubt from you, since you have no real direct experience with PCM for less (It looks to me that you never used them?) nor any other programming company from what I've read on this site (Looks to me that you are running the stock computer waiting for the world to end that maybe a "proven" "dyno'd" program will arrive with the second coming??? It seams that you are out to bash PCM for some reason. Yes, Multi Million dollar Dyno testing would look great on paper, but what would it really prove? Bottom line, I'm looking for seat of the pants return for my dollar. As it was stated, new intake systems and aftermarket exhaust provide the majority of their performance at WOT which is just not realistic for a daily driver. I'm looking to improve the daily drivability of a poorly tuned stock factory vehicle.

I don't quite trust the other site that was mentioned, http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=44414. It seams they censor anything they don't agree with and a bunch of Colorado owners running around tuning each other's vehicles for the cost of their gas does not seem to "proven" either.

I think this post has led my decision toward using PCM for less as their legit competitors are charging considerably more. I've got a service date coming up next week, after that, I'll be contacting PCM. I'll post back afterward with my confirmed results.
Hoosier

There are several threads on PCM for Less on Hummerforums.com and everyone with an H3 that got the tune is happy with it. They have been using the tune since last fall.

Too bad someone here feels they have to hide the previous thread on this site.....

I haven't seen one H3 owner that got the tune that wasn't satisfied with it.

[H3HUMMER]

PCM for less rocks

[H3HUMMER]

why where they banned
That is sad
to me they are #1
well i got mine done so a lot of pepole do not know what they are missing.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by HoosierH3

HummBebe-I can't quite understand the negativity and doubt from you,

You don't have to take my opinion, if you are reading it, so personally. It's just my opinion.

When people start getting defensive about their product, it signals to me that they are deeply insecure about it for some reason.

Personally, I have grown up around "hot rods" and race cars, and so my thoughts may be sort of old school, but my father, who is a genius when it come to these things, thinks that it is not likely the soundest thing to do.

If you have heard about "balancing and blueprinting" from the old days, that is exactly what GM has done, balanced the drivetrain.

Just because there is "power left on the table" doesn't mean you should utilize it.

In my opinion, unless the program is changed in real life, for real life situations, I have no use for it.

Doesn't mean you don't have a use for it. I hope your "seat of the pants" thrill makes you happy.

[HoosierH3]

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Just because there is "power left on the table" doesn't mean you should utilize it.

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HUUUH? WOW! LMFAO!!!
Yup, everybody is entitled to their opinion and my opinion is there is never enough power to utilize. That power left on the table is a waste.

I'm sure GM, as much as I love GM, did not get everything "balanced" when they designed and rolled out the 06 H3. If so, they would not have rolled out the 3.7 for the second production year. There would also be no need for the ALPHA since the original 3.5 had "power left on the table".

I'm not taking your comments personally. I personally don't care what your opinion is as you have no personal experience to back your opinion.

Don't utilize the power! lol

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by HoosierH3

HUUUH? WOW! LMFAO!!!
Yup, everybody is entitled to their opinion and my opinion is there is never enough power to utilize. That power left on the table is a waste.

That's your opinon.

I'm sure GM, as much as I love GM, did not get everything "balanced" when they designed and rolled out the 06 H3.

Are you sure about that?

If so, they would not have rolled out the 3.7 for the second production year. There would also be no need for the ALPHA since the original 3.5 had "power left on the table".

They made changes to the power on the H3, not by changing the shift points, or the programming. They changed the bore. That my friend, is the "right way" to upgrade power in an engine.

I'm not taking your comments personally. I personally don't care what your opinion is as you have no personal experience to back your opinion.

Yes you are, because you now are needing to defend yourself by insulting me. So here, in case you have not gotten one of these yet....

Don't utilize the power! lol

You are an *******.