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06-27-2007, 07:41 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
amen brother
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06-27-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
X3 Steve
Yea, I thought it was cool too. Nice for someone to come along, do the research and tell you exactly what you need.
Especially coming from those guys. 
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06-27-2007, 09:58 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
but but but it has nothing to do with Rod Hall, and a Rancho Lift??? Seriously?
Who "extreme off roads" with a lifted truck?
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06-27-2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
Just remember, their mods are geared for high speed baja off roading. I think the majority of us want to gear our off road mods toward low speed trail riding, rock crawling and extended back country trips. Low center of gravity is a must so that they don't flip at 100 mph off road, but I would rather have more ground clearance, flex and suspensoin travel at low speed.
So what did they do to that rear end? it sure looks like a spring over axle conversion. I think I want whatever they did back there.
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06-27-2007, 10:31 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
I don't know what you guy's are reading, I saw the 1 inch lift done with spacers and longer bolts, 35s and adjusting the brushguard and fan shroud to prevent rubbing.
I didn't think it was that EXTREME... ((echo)).
The actual one they race is totally and expensively modded almost to the point of non-recognition. This was what the engineers that support the research came up with for H3 owners in general. That's all.
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06-27-2007, 10:59 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
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I don't know what you guy's are reading, I saw the 1 inch lift done with spacers and longer bolts, 35s and adjusting the brushguard and fan shroud to prevent rubbing.
I didn't think it was that EXTREME... ((echo)).
The actual one they race is totally and expensively modded almost to the point of non-recognition. This was what the engineers that support the research came up with for H3 owners in general. That's all.
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Cosmetically maybe, with light bars and such, but it's a stock class, the aren't allowed to "mod it beyond recognition".
The engineers in the article posted are modding the H3 with a front suspension lift.....Rod Halls H3 does not have a suspension lift, it has a body lift, per the link I posted. Completely different.
The title of this thread is "Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods", the link below it says "Engineers Make Extreme Hummer".
Really, I just don't think people should believe the a Rancho lift will make their HUMMER H3 an extreme wheeling machine. Or, that Rod Hall would recommend it...the lift I mean.That's all. 
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06-27-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
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Cosmetically maybe, with light bars and such, but it's a stock class, the aren't allowed to "mod it beyond recognition".
The engineers in the article posted are modding the H3 with a front suspension lift.....Rod Halls H3 does not have a suspension lift, it has a body lift, per the link I posted. Completely different.
The title of this thread is "Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods", the link below it says "Engineers Make Extreme Hummer".
Really, I just don't think people should believe the a Rancho lift will make their HUMMER H3 an extreme wheeling machine. Or, that Rod Hall would recommend it...the lift I mean.That's all. 
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Again, it said all you need is 1 inch spacers versus a 4" Rancho lift. Read it how you want to. It's just an article. I would try it if I had 35s.
I promise I won't make you or anyone do it.
I edited the title- happy dumbs hit.  I think Rod can sleep now.
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06-27-2007, 11:38 PM
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Re: ENGINEERS FOR Hall give tips for 4x4 H3 mods
I don't think Hall uses Rancho stuff for racing
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06-28-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: Hall's tips for 4x4 H3 mods
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Just remember, their mods are geared for high speed baja off roading. I think the majority of us want to gear our off road mods toward low speed trail riding, rock crawling and extended back country trips. Low center of gravity is a must so that they don't flip at 100 mph off road, but I would rather have more ground clearance, flex and suspensoin travel at low speed.
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Yes. And low center of gravity is very important for most of us that drive ourselves and our families 90% plus on the street at speeds up to 80mph daily (in California and Nevada).
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06-28-2007, 02:43 AM
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Re: ENGINEERS FOR Hall give tips for 4x4 H3 mods
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on the engineering truck, which features a four-inch Rancho front suspension lift (see www.gorancho.com).
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The truck they are referring to has a 4 inch lift, not something the Hall truck has. 
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06-28-2007, 03:04 AM
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Re: ENGINEERS FOR Hall give tips for 4x4 H3 mods
Seen that truck in person this past April at Silver Lake Dunes... the spring over conversion was trick if your looking for a lift and more clearance under the axle...
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06-28-2007, 03:16 AM
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Re: ENGINEERS FOR Hall give tips for 4x4 H3 mods
I am going to explain it for the paste lickers.
This article is about an "Extreme" template that GM engineers that support and work for Team Hummer owned by ROD HALL made. They spend their days screwing around with your vehicle and checking it's performance off-road.
IN the midst of the article about the "extreme" H3 they built- with a 4 inch RANCHO lift and did some other pretty cool stuff too, imo. They mentioned this as a tip:
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Hubbard added that 35-inch tires also are something that serious off-roading H3 owners will want to consider. However, he suggested those owners not go to the extremes the engineering team did. Instead, he said all they really need to do is to do a one-inch body lift, which can be done with a dozen one-inch spacers and longer bolts.
He noted that the H3 brush guard can be adjusted to hide any resulting gap at the front of the vehicle and that the H3 fan shroud can be rotated to prevent the possibility of rubbing.
Hubbard said this setup is practical and maintains a lower center of gravity than the more extreme measures on the engineering truck***, which features a four-inch Rancho front suspension lift (see www.gorancho.com).
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*** in which the original article is about.
I suggest if anyone thinks that what they have done to the template in the article is not "extreme" or offends them in any way, they may call or write them on the website.
I was posting the article for the tidbits of tips and the rest of it's content for its relative coolness.
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06-28-2007, 03:28 AM
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Re: ENGINEERS FOR Hall give tips for 4x4 H3 mods
Crystal clear now....thanks
Has anyone on the board done a bodylift to accomdate their 35's ?
I'd like to hear about it. I think I mentioned it a while ago, but it was brought to my attention that I would not be able to now, unless I wantyed to change everything back bumpers etc....
I think it would be cool. Not sure that it's necessary tho.
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