Hurrah!

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

most nubees come here on their first post and say" hi, i'm new to the forum, i own or wana own a H-3 & i hope i learn a lot"

u come in and start talking BS WITHOUT REFERENCE MATERIAL...

care to start again

[zoe]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

care to start again

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html

THIS report by Pacific Institute

Hummer versus Prius:
“Dust to Dust” Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science

by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007
The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.’s 2007 “Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal” caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report’s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, “Dust to Dust” has already distorted the public debate.

Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me...

1. do you own a HUMMER
2. if you do , what model
3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the
past, what model was it
4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you
drive now and WHO paid for it.
5. what organization do you work for
6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM
7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and
reference material


OH YEAH !


NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS

[fourfourto]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

THIS report by Pacific Institute

Hummer versus Prius:
?Dust to Dust? Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science

by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007
The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.?s 2007 ?Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal? caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report?s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, ?Dust to Dust? has already distorted the public debate.

Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me...

1. do you own a HUMMER
2. if you do , what model
3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the
past, what model was it
4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you
drive now and WHO paid for it.
5. what organization do you work for
6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM
7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and
reference material


OH YEAH !


NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS

Hey I have a pic just like that

Its my brother in laws

[jmsspratlin]

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose

All I have to do is take one look at that picture, and there's no f**king way I'm going to drive some lame-ass Prius.

Looks gay

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by fourfourto

Hey I have a pic just like that

Its my brother in laws

[zoe]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

THIS report by Pacific Institute

The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results and so the study is flawed from the get go. And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), have the same limited MPG of 13, and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year.

Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results(by who) and so the study is flawed from the get go(says who). And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), (how can you be so ignorant)have the same limited MPG of 13,(are you naturally stupid) and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year. (my GOD man you are 1 dumb FSOB)

Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same.

I bet your a vegen and work for greenpeace...

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by zoe

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.

POWN3D

[KenP]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

POWN3D

HAHAhaha!!!! Right click - save!!!!

[Agriv8r]

4 pages and then the cat appears.....

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Haha, yeah! I was waiting for that.

Oh, how threads wander!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.

BTW: What exactly is a forged IP?

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by Hummer Aficionado_VT

BTW: What exactly is a forged IP?

your to young to know !!!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I can't win...

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