Time to evaluate my purchase !

[ChiHummer3]

[trailerpup]

The bad...

First, the paint job sucks a$$. I just tell people that Hummer uses hammerite... just to get a few laughs.

Second, you didn't mention the factory pre-dented rear doors. I have not seen an H3 that didn't have them... and of course, all the paint jobs I have seen have the same orange peel going.

Third, the gas mileage is the worst I have ever seen. I guess this is what you get when you put a 5cyl in a 6 thousand pound vehicle (where are they hiding all that weight?)

Fourth, in my opinion, all factory stereos suck (upgraded or not). The first thing I did was sink 3 or 4 grand into after-market w/ Nav/Sirrius (but I always splurge on the best gear for my ear).

Fifth, only now that I have switched from 87 octane to "premium" does my H3 not lug in drive going up the slightest incline.

The good....

CHICKS DIG IT!!!

[Sewie]

Paint - should have noticed it when the truck was sitting on the dealer's lot before buying.

Seat-Heater button - should have noticed it when getting in/out of the truck on the dealer's lot before buying.

Mileage - should have noticed it on the sticker in the window when the truck was on the dealer's lot. And anyone with half a brain knows those numbers are optimistic at best.

XM - its an option, nobody forced you to get it.

Radio - should have listened to it when the truck was sitting on the dealer's lot before buying. You also didn't mention which radio you have. The Monsoon is by far the best stock radio I've heard.


Everything you're complaining about you should have noticed before buying, so bew-friggity-hew.

[Mr Snappy]

Originally Posted by Sewie

Paint - should have noticed it when the truck was sitting on the dealer's lot before buying.

Seat-Heater button - should have noticed it when getting in/out of the truck on the dealer's lot before buying.

Mileage - should have noticed it on the sticker in the window when the truck was on the dealer's lot. And anyone with half a brain knows those numbers are optimistic at best.

XM - its an option, nobody forced you to get it.

Radio - should have listened to it when the truck was sitting on the dealer's lot before buying. You also didn't mention which radio you have. The Monsoon is by far the best stock radio I've heard.


Everything you're complaining about you should have noticed before buying, so bew-friggity-hew.

LOL....so let me get this straight, you say because I did not go over every inch of the vehicle and notcied the crap paint, it is not really a problem? LOL, OK, whatever. Actually, I bought a black on black and I had 3 identical ones to choose from. the first one I rejected because it had a dented trim piece. The second one I rejected becaused it pulled to the left like it had hit a curb at 40 MPH. So the one I went with was the lesser of the three. I did notice two paint problems prior to driving off the lot, but decided to keep it anyways....the other 6 or 7 spots were found once I gave it its first wax job. So, yeah, if your point was I expect to much out of a $40K truck, you might be right....It may also be the reason there were 60 of them on the lot and I was the only customer.

Mileage. I never stated I wanted it to do something it could not do, but I do expect the mileage to be better between the posted 15 city/ 19Hwy...since I only go Hwy for the most part, asking 17/18 is not unreasonable.

As far as XM being an option, yeah, that is a genius point. Only problem was that every truck on the lot with the Luxo package had XM, so I really did not have a choice if I wanted the other features...very common practice. Also, EVERY truck on my dealers lot had towing....another little cash grab

I have the Monsoon radio, and if that is the best stock radio you have ever heard, I feel deeply sorry for your ears. The Infiniti system in my Dodge blows its doors off as well as the stock system in my 2003 Corvette. I would rank this radio with the stock unit in a cobalt or ford ranger.

But your overall point is valid, I did not have to buy it. Evendently, if you look at Hummer's sales numbers, alot of people are deciding not to.

I still like the truck and plan to keep it, but they could have done MUCH better.

[trailerpup]

Oh, this is gonna be good!

[KenP]

Maybe you just wash it too often.

Originally Posted by Mr Snappy

Yup,
They brought it in to the "Delivery Room" and it was all polished and sweet...then I left the dealership and it poured down rain all the way home. So, I took the family to dinner and on the way home I washed it, so it had two washes in about 2 hours yesterday

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=27302

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

06 20000 miles LUX Pkg Auto

Monsoon super
MPG filled up today 17.24mpg 60% highway
Paint super (but it is YELLOW)
Seat Heater NEVER turned on by itself
Reliability super
Buy again YOU BET YA!

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Mr Snappy

LOL....so let me get this straight, you say because I did not go over every inch of the vehicle and notcied the crap paint, it is not really a problem?

Not saying its not a problem, just that you should have noticed it before buying, so quit crying about it.

As far as XM being an option, yeah, that is a genius point. Only problem was that every truck on the lot with the Luxo package had XM, so I really did not have a choice if I wanted the other features...

Sure you did. Tell them to take it out. Or you could have ordered one the way you wanted it.

I have the Monsoon radio, and if that is the best stock radio you have ever heard, I feel deeply sorry for your ears. The Infiniti system in my Dodge blows its doors off as well as the stock system in my 2003 Corvette. I would rank this radio with the stock unit in a cobalt or ford ranger.

Had a Dodge with the Infinity system before the H3. The Monsoon is definitely better.

I just don't get these whiny posts. People having real problems with their rigs like cylinder head issues, busted diffs, etc., I can sympathize with. But complaining about stuff that was clearly evident before buying the truck.....

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by Sewie

I just don't get these whiny posts. People having real problems with their rigs like cylinder head issues, busted diffs, etc., I can sympathize with. But complaining about stuff that was clearly evident before buying the truck.....

they dont use their trucks like we use ours

[stagger_lee]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

they dont use their trucks like we use ours

I think that is the reason. My paint is not the best, I dont care so much about instrument and button placement, I have an Ipod adapter (dont listen to the radio) and the sound system is good enough...I can drive up the side of a wall though!! anything beyond driving up the side of a cliff or off it for that matter is luxury to me. My AC works great, and seats are super comfortable. Thats about all I care about. Im a simple person though.

I look at it this way. You pay for performance (ie: Jeep Rubicon, Subaru STI) or great physical attributes and features(Passat)...and then you break $40K+ and you start getting both (Range Rovers, Porsche Cayenne).

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by Sewie

I just don't get these whiny posts. People having real problems with their rigs like cylinder head issues, busted diffs, etc., I can sympathize with. But complaining about stuff that was clearly evident before buying the truck.....

x2 ... you only have yourself to blame if you're not happy with your impulse buy.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

I recently posted 2 survey threads on H3 problems. One showed about 47 problems with 400 views. The other showed 26 problems out of 245 views. Sure, they're informal surveys, but that's a pretty low problem rate for a 1st and 2nd year vehicle. Not bad at all.

Plus, of all the problems listed, most have been covered by warranty (including some paint problems), parts redesign (like the A-pillar, marker & off-road lights, roof rails, steering column, tie rods, and cylinder heads) or improvements in quality control at the factory. I've only heard of a very few who had to resort to lemon laws or GM buy-back.

And then there's GM's response to customer complaints and usability issues. So far, we've seen 2006 1/2, 07 and 07 1/2 changes like the shifter cubby hole, window switch location, PCM/BCM upgrades, child-locks and the 3.7L power increase (with no loss in fuel mileage).

And then there's warranty coverage. H3 product support is very high, even for part failure off-road. Most 4x4 makers call actual off-road use "abuse" and won't cover any breakage under warranty. Not Hummer. Lots of members have reported warranty coverage offroad. And the rate of breakage has dropped as parts are tested, refined or redesigned.

[Mr Snappy]

You guys amaze me....so since you can't defend all of the problems I have pointed out, it's now me and my "impulse buy" LOL.

Whatever...

Looks like this is the wrong place to have an honest discussion about our vehicles. And for the record, I never said I didn't like the truck, and I have no plans to get rid of it. You guys keep waving the HUMMER flag and ignoring the issues, you will find that you own a collectors item in very short order.

BTW, since you fan boys refuse to get the point, let me show you a little graphic.



or this one...

[Viet Nam Vette]

Originally Posted by Sewie

Paint - should have noticed it when the truck was sitting on the dealer's lot before buying.

Seat-Heater button - should have noticed it when getting in/out of the truck on the dealer's lot before buying.

Mileage - should have noticed it on the sticker in the window when the truck was on the dealer's lot. And anyone with half a brain knows those numbers are optimistic at best.

XM - its an option, nobody forced you to get it.

Radio - should have listened to it when the truck was sitting on the dealer's lot before buying. You also didn't mention which radio you have. The Monsoon is by far the best stock radio I've heard.


Everything you're complaining about you should have noticed before buying, so bew-friggity-hew.

Paint
Ok.. I checked every inch of my paint when they rolled it out for me to inspect. That's what the inspection was for ..before I signed on the dotted line. If there would have been anything wrong with it ..they would have repaired it. Not all HUMMERS have perfect paint..I'll give you that. But ...when you lay your cash down you should check out what your paying for.

The only time that doesn't apply...is when you boot your first wife out the door. You have to try it first.

Milage
What do you expect... It's a Fargen Brick go-en down the high way. "It's Like Nothing Else"

Seat Heater Button
I did the same thing when I bought mine. But it took me 1 min to realize the heat was on when my ass got hot.

Radio and the "XM"
I have the monsoon rig.. and XM. The Monsoon rig kicks butt and sound great. XM is better then that fargen "FM" crap with commercials every 2 songs, then 10 min of BS Commericals. Ok.. Brand "B" Sat radio might be better but to me...who gives a crap.
Sure...there are better sound systems. But the Monsoon is a hell of a lot better then the standard radio.

Conclusion..???

Farg It...The H3 is a fun rig and I'm enjoying the crap out of mine.

[Agriv8r]