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08-11-2007, 03:11 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
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I've been telling him to hire a lawn care company for years now! I think it's more about principle than cost.
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Bingo! Plus I can't hear any kids screaming or crying in the background.
We'd have to spend $300+/month, so in 10 months, or two seasons, a ZT would be paid for.
I take pride in trimming the driveway nice and straight, having it look like a runway in the backyard, trimming around the beds so they look perfect.
I don't like spending forever on a mower when I see I can do it much faster.
Oh, for the record, I HATE weeding. That's what RoundUp is for. 
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08-11-2007, 07:50 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
I've gone on reccord before stating that I do not care for Z-turn tractors. They are too awkward to use IMO. What you need Ken is a John Deere 400 series or X series with four wheel steering (the X series replaced the 400's a few years ago). My parents have a 445 (kawasaki fuel injected engine) with four wheel steering, and you can really cook on those things. I have the 455 (inline 3 diesels) with the two wheel steer, it doesnt cut as fast because of turns, but its got more implement options, which I'm all about. None of these models are cheap, but they will last you for at least 20 years.
http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCa...m=ho&link=dnav
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08-11-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
I pay my gardener so that I can spend my time doing what I want, not what I have to. I have about 3/4 of an acre cleared around the house. When I was young, raising a family and money was not plentiful, I cut it. Bought a rider, put the headphones on, lit up and had a blast. Same with snow plowing the driveway.
Only thing that has changed is the rider part. 
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08-11-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
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I've gone on reccord before stating that I do not care for Z-turn tractors. They are too awkward to use IMO. What you need Ken is a John Deere 400 series or X series with four wheel steering (the X series replaced the 400's a few years ago). My parents have a 445 (kawasaki fuel injected engine) with four wheel steering, and you can really cook on those things. I have the 455 (inline 3 diesels) with the two wheel steer, it doesnt cut as fast because of turns, but its got more implement options, which I'm all about. None of these models are cheap, but they will last you for at least 20 years.
http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCa...m=ho&link=dnav
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Those are great mowers, but at 10k, they better be.  Do you have any idea how much trouble I'd be in if I came home with one of those? 
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08-12-2007, 06:25 AM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
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Those are great mowers, but at 10k, they better be.  Do you have any idea how much trouble I'd be in if I came home with one of those? 
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Ken, I'm sure that CP will understand how important pure mowing bliss is to you. I look forward to cutting the grass, so much so that I dump tons of fertilizer on it and water the hell out of it, just so it grows faster, then I can cut it more often. Hell, I'm using that uber sweet 2-4D to expand my grass another 2-3K square feet so I can spend more time cutting the grass. Just go to the Deere dealer and take one out, or see if they have any demos left over, a used X should be in your price range.
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08-13-2007, 03:58 PM
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08-14-2007, 07:32 AM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
After all consideration, it looks like a choice has been made. Actually, I was given an allowance....
No Home Depot here, we're going with a local company and getting a Toro Z5000. The owner of the company lives around the corner and I informed the salesman I'd show up at the owner's door if we had a problem.
They'll deliver it, pick it up for service, return, etc., for no charge.
Cub Cadet kinda sux for service locally, so that pretty much took care of the decision.
Pics in the near future.
Ok, so I had to bribe a couple of relatives to push for the ZT, but what she doesn't know won't hurt us... Right....
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08-14-2007, 06:30 PM
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Smart move staying away from the home depot lines. The machines they sell do not tend to live up to the manufactures reputations.
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08-11-2007, 07:55 PM
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You should try 2-4D. I dont know about Va, but it Wi its not really legal for your average joe to posses, but damn does it work well. I went on a campaign of broadleaf genocide yesterday. Already that stuff is dead, and it does not kill your grass.
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Oh, for the record, I HATE weeding. That's what RoundUp is for. 
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08-11-2007, 09:45 PM
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You should try 2-4D. I dont know about Va, but it Wi its not really legal for your average joe to posses, but damn does it work well. I went on a campaign of broadleaf genocide yesterday. Already that stuff is dead, and it does not kill your grass.
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Wow, I just Googled that stuff and it must work, the enviro wacko hate it. 
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08-11-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
I use old dependable to cut my lawn,and also plow my 200 foot driveway with it.
I bought it used 10 years ago for $100.00
1977 Dynamark(Murry)11HP 36 inch cut.
30 years old and it does the job time and time again. 
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08-11-2007, 10:32 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
Dixie Chopper Silver Eagel 44 inch, around $5000, works great...
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08-11-2007, 11:16 PM
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Dixie Chopper Silver Eagel 44 inch, around $5000, works great...
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Love Dixie Choppers, but we're not talking the same price range.
The Dixie Choper can cut a football field in 10 minutes, so it'd take me 20+ if I got the one above. But it's 1/4 the cost. 
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08-17-2007, 10:50 PM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
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Bingo! Plus I can't hear any kids screaming or crying in the background. 
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Dammit, Man, you're not supposed to mow the kids!
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08-17-2007, 11:00 PM
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Dammit, Man, you're not supposed to mow the kids!
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It's the scruffy cut that's so popular these days. I' bet we'll be hearing more about this problem.
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08-20-2007, 03:27 AM
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Re: Cutting the Grass
I've got a New Holland w/ an 84" belly mower.
W/ the super steer it'll turn right back around.
they now have cab models w/ AC so the wife wants me to look into trading up.
BTW, you can drive a ZT w/ one hand, just grab them both and twist your hand to turn. makes drinking and eating while mowing a lot easier.
here's a pic
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08-21-2007, 08:41 PM
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A little too big for my needs.
I get the new one tomorrow. The manager warned me not to go near the water with it until I'm very comfortable with it. 
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08-21-2007, 09:01 PM
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My buddies family operates a landscaping company, you should hear his story about taking a Z turn they had on demo for a couple of days down a dew covered hill. I'd type it all out, but I'm a bit tired today. Needless to say it involved losing traction and a fence and about 15mph of terminal velocity. Come to think of it, it was a Toro too...
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A little too big for my needs.
I get the new one tomorrow. The manager warned me not to go near the water with it until I'm very comfortable with it. 
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08-21-2007, 09:07 PM
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I've done something like that in a golf cart. Just change "fence" to "pond". 
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