FJ in the news.... and it AIN'T GOOD....

[Stevenblanca]

Nightmarish... Maybe a bit of thick bondo will help. So much for the "japanese quality with the rugged look of a hummer" bs.

[pool_shark]

I'm two for two in the FJ forums.

I responded to that spaz air2air in the FJ forum and the thread was deleted. I went over there later, and there was a post about ME being a troll. I responded to that one, and it too was deleted.

[RuggedH2]

They censor on the FJ forums like crazy. I've had it happen to me also. It appears like they try very hard to protect the FJ's image. I'm not a fan of the FJ's styling at all, but -

"For the record" FJ's don't suck off road. Obviously I would rather drive Hummers but, the FJ is a capable machine. I have wheeled with them and have witnessed their performance (lifted with bigger tires, and stock). For IFS rigs, they wheel OK.

They don't have the great gearing of the H3, but the lighter weight and stronger engine make up for it slightly.

The tearing of the sheet metal is real and a recently found problem. They have also found many of their components i.e. rear diffs and control arms to be weaker than they should be. They found these problems much the same way we found our weak front diff, by beating on them off road.

I realize these vehicles compete with each other to some degree, but I don't need to put down the other truck to feel good about the purchase of the H2 or H3. I am envious of their aftermarket support, much like Jeep.

Dennis pushes the FJ button because he knows it Raaarrrs some of us.

[pool_shark]

Originally Posted by 03H3

They censor on the FJ forums like crazy. I've had it happen to me also. It appears like they try very hard to protect the FJ's image. I'm not a fan of the FJ's styling at all, but -

"For the record" FJ's don't suck off road. Obviously I would rather drive Hummers but, the FJ is a capable machine. I have wheeled with them and have witnessed their performance (lifted with bigger tires, and stock). For IFS rigs, they wheel OK.

They don't have the great gearing of the H3, but the lighter weight and stronger engine make up for it slightly.

The tearing of the sheet metal is real and a recently found problem. They have also found many of their components i.e. rear diffs and control arms to be weaker than they should be. They found these problems much the same way we found our weak front diff, by beating on them off road.

I realize these vehicles compete with each other to some degree, but I don't need to put down the other truck to feel good about the purchase of the H2 or H3. I am envious of their aftermarket support, much like Jeep.

Dennis pushes the FJ button because he knows it Raaarrrs some of us.

I agree with not putting down other vehicles, to me it makes no sense. But that guy (air2air) came over to one of the other hummer forums pretending that he wanted to buy one. He took read some of the problems some have had and posted them on the FJ forum. Some of the members of the hummer forum found posts made my air2air stating that his FJ broke this and that, got stuck here or there, and posted them.
I went to the FJ forum and saw that he posted a quote from me, and I let him have it, letting him know how childish it was for him to troll other forums, and posted pics of my H3, then the thread was deleted.
I even stated that I considered purchasing an FJ, but decided against it because I liked the H3 better, but that I have nothing against the FJ or toyota's in general.

Then someone started a thread calling me a troll and making fun of me because I workout. I responded and again the thread was deleted.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by pool_shark

Then someone started a thread calling me a troll and making fun of me because I workout.

Be quiet no neck.

I actually read your post with the Arnold's voice in mind.

[SnakeH2]

Originally Posted by pool_shark

Then someone started a thread calling me a troll and making fun of me because I workout.

Do you workout?

[Mudd]

I test drove both the FJ and H3.
Found the ride very similar. Didn't like the "suicide doors" of the FJ.
Also, the front end and dash of the FJ seemed too "plastic-y".

Found My '06 H3 on craigslist.
Garaged, with bling options and 4800 miles for $27K.
Hello: "Credit Union".

[pool_shark]

Originally Posted by SnakeH2

Do you workout?

Nope.

[trailerpup]

Rad!

[H3slate]

Originally Posted by 03H3

I am envious of their aftermarket support, much like Jeep.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by 03H3

I realize these vehicles compete with each other to some degree, but I don't need to put down the other truck to feel good about the purchase of the H2 or H3. I am envious of their aftermarket support, much like Jeep.

Nobody is knocking on the FJC, it's more the attitude of some Toyota owners, I think it comes with the brand. A lot of them act as if they're driving God's gift to the automotive industry. They'll talk about Toyota as being the most reliable car company, and everything else is crap. Naturally, when ANYTHING happens, especially of this magnitude, they're just asking for people to point and laugh.

Dennis pushes the FJ button because he knows it Raaarrrs some of us.

I think the FJ button has been pressed and held so much that it no longer functions.

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by RazM

Nobody is knocking on the FJC, it's more the attitude of some Toyota owners, I think it comes with the brand. A lot of them act as if they're driving God's gift to the automotive industry. They'll talk about Toyota as being the most reliable car company, and everything else is crap. Naturally, when ANYTHING happens, especially of this magnitude, they're just asking for people to point and laugh.

Point taken. I've argued this same point on their forum. They mostly are of the opinion that Toyota trumps ALL others, ALL the time.

I've also advocated the purchase of American vehicles being good for the American people on their forum. Just like Pool Shark, I've been called a troll many times there. I'm not trolling there, I don't put down their vehicle. I just bring a different perspective to a largely group think atmosphere (Some of them are open minded). The Mods do censor there.

As much of a PITA as Dennis can be, I'm glad they don't here (mostly, except for the pics of Dennis on the wrong side of a winch) Didn't someone get banned for that? That is B.S. from here @ Elcova.

We think Hummers are better, they think FJ's are. Whatever, as long as you wheel it - who cares? We each gotta fix our own rigs. In this case it could end up costing Toyota some big bucks and some reputation. Toyota is now trying to build GM type numbers of vehicles, it's a lot harder to control the quality on larger numbers.


I think the FJ button has been pressed and held so much that it no longer functions. That is funny. The other day, I counted ten threads over there on the first two pages of "other vehicles", that all put down Hummers in some way.

I hope we don't start looking that insecure.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by 03H3

Dennis pushes the FJ button because he knows it Raaarrrs some of us.

HAHAHA!!! Ding! Ding! Ding!


That's crappy news about the FJ. But it still rates high on my list. Especially the original FJs.

I bet stagger_lee's 71' FJ40 can out wheel H3s ANYDAY.