I had a mishap at the gas pump

[lamric]

Originally Posted by lennyrebel

Your the kind of guy where the world is all wrong and your always right. Look in the mirror at a stupid as- if you keep it up we won't have to look at you much longer. I serviced those gas nozzles for years. They work on back pressure against small sensor tube. If you got the truck running your actually pulling gas from tank creating a negative pressure at sensor. My POINT-- GROW UP and WAKE UP guys like you are a hazard to civilization. Amen


I guess your failure to understand how the charcoal canister and assorted tubing relates to the filler neck adds to your misunderstanding. Because I don't want to see a massive explosion I guess I'm the fall guy. No understanding some peoples logic.

Uh....I don't see any mention of the filler neck, tubing and charcoal filter in your post about the workings of the nozzle. We were discussing your post about how the engine running could keep "back pressure" from shutting off the pump. In reality it isn't back pressure that shuts off the pump, it's vacuum.
I never said that filling the tank with the engine running is a good idea. I don't agree with your explaination of why it isn't.

[fourfourto]

Apparently the truck running had nothing to do with it Lenny (where you from... canada )

The danger level is crazy high when the pump sticks.
(Even if I was standing there I would have used the lock,then the gas would have sprayed back on me )

The danger level is rather low pumping with the engine running .(very stupid thing to do anyway )

[SR1355]

I think I left the truck running....

[Desert Dan]

Some more gasoline safety humor

[lamric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4bT...related&search=

I think I found the real reason you should shut your engine off.

[Steve #1]

Allow me to give this almost dead horse one last blow.

Per the Texas State Fire Marshal's Director of Special Projects in responce to my question:

#1: "I have noticed that almost every gasoline pump has a sign on it with a number of warnings, the first of which is almost always "stop motor while fueling" or something to that effect. I'm curious if this is due to a risk of fire. If it is due to a fire risk, what is the specific factor, and how is it more of a risk than for instance, a vehicle with an engine idling next to one that is fueling."

WS:"This is a fire related requirement. It is to lower the posibility of ignition from the engine. The proxmity of the motor to the tank being filled versus the adjacent vehicles seperated by distance fom the despensing is the reasoning."

#1: "Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.

How often are fires caused by fueling with the engine running, and are there any laws against running the engine while fueling?"

WS: "Most fires at stations are caused when people do not return the hose to the despenser and drive off wiht the hose still in the task. This is why the despensers have to be equipped with hose break a way devices on the despensers.. Few incidents are now traced to the running of a vehicle motor while filling. This is probably because most people follow the law and shut off their engines."

[lance-n]

Originally Posted by Steve #1

Allow me to give this almost dead horse one last blow.

Per the Texas State Fire Marshal's Director of Special Projects in responce to my question:

#1: "I have noticed that almost every gasoline pump has a sign on it with a number of warnings, the first of which is almost always "stop motor while fueling" or something to that effect. I'm curious if this is due to a risk of fire. If it is due to a fire risk, what is the specific factor, and how is it more of a risk than for instance, a vehicle with an engine idling next to one that is fueling."

WS:"This is a fire related requirement. It is to lower the posibility of ignition from the engine. The proxmity of the motor to the tank being filled versus the adjacent vehicles seperated by distance fom the despensing is the reasoning."

#1: "Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.

How often are fires caused by fueling with the engine running, and are there any laws against running the engine while fueling?"

WS: "Most fires at stations are caused when people do not return the hose to the despenser and drive off wiht the hose still in the task. This is why the despensers have to be equipped with hose break a way devices on the despensers.. Few incidents are now traced to the running of a vehicle motor while filling. This is probably because most people follow the law and shut off their engines."

or maybe it is really because running motors don't cause gas station fires.
here in mexico, they don't allow you to use your cell phone while they are filling your tank. risk of fire, risk of digital pump reset? who knows?!?!?!?

[lamric]

Car fire victim x-ray.