Towed H2 by RV causes accident

[obzidian]

one thing, I'm not understanding your numbers...

"to much weight--Example, Car hauler rated @ 7K--Trailer Wt.=2400Lb, your payload would be 4600Lbs--H2 dry=6400"

First, when you say car hauler, is that the actually R/V or a car hauler like a trailer? If the latter, what kind of open or even a enclosed trailer, weighs 7k?

And lastly, the payload, is that the weight in the r/v, total, or again, on the trailer with the h2?

Anyways, your setup does look pretty impressive.... i've never towed with a r/v like that so this is a learning experience...

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by obzidian

one thing, I'm not understanding your numbers...

"to much weight--Example, Car hauler rated @ 7K--Trailer Wt.=2400Lb, your payload would be 4600Lbs--H2 dry=6400"

First, when you say car hauler, is that the actually R/V or a car hauler like a trailer? If the latter, what kind of open or even a enclosed trailer, weighs 7k?

And lastly, the payload, is that the weight in the r/v, total, or again, on the trailer with the h2?

Anyways, your setup does look pretty impressive.... i've never towed with a r/v like that so this is a learning experience...

In the Example I used, The car Hauler is rated @ 7,000 pounds, if the Hauler/trailer weighs 2400 pounds empty, what you can put on it (car/payload) must Not exceed 4600 Pounds!----- 4600 + 2400=7000

Nothing to do with the RV!

[Grizzy]

The guy in the RV should go to P R I S O N for 20yrs, 5yrs for INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, and 15yrs for BEING AN IDIOT!

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by Grizzy

I was using my car hauling trailer as an example. I know it's not sufficient 'by law' to haul a H2. Perhaps 5.2k or even 6k trailer axles would be more than sufficient. Anyways, I have to vent some more on the tow bar system. What kind of idiot would put a $60k H2 behind a fu**ing tow bar???? I don't care how fancy your tow bar/remote brake trigger setup is, anything goes wrong, you're H2 goes in the ditch AND/OR somebody STILL gets killed! I've personally never seen anybody do this. Usually its the jeep being pulled behind the RV, or the occasional station wagon, but never a 6k lb H2! Hell the H2 should be on a car trailer lined with silver and gold with a custom cover! I'm thinking a custom BAT trailer out of Fort Worth with 6k lb axles, with a 2 5/8 12k bulldog hitch. That would get'er done!

The guy in the RV should go to P R I S O N for 20yrs, 5yrs for INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, and 15yrs for BEING AN IDIOT!

Set Back and LEARN something Youngster! Or STFU!! Try to Comprehend what's been typed, do a little research on your own if you CAN'T get it!

What kind of idiot would put a $60k H2 behind a fu**ing tow bar????

People that Know a Chitload more than You!!
Like I said Earlier!..... I'm the FIRST FKN IDIOT TO DO IT! ...and have been since 02!

[Grizzy]

Retracted comment! I'm done here!

[Grizzy]

I swear people around here suck at answering questions.


WHAT THE HELL IS A 'Jesse luving hate monger troll' ????

[Big Z]

Here's another Example for ya!

My hauler is rated for 10K, (9,950) Curd Weight = 4,732 Paylosd can be 5,218 Pounds

Tongue Weight is Maxed @ 1000 Pounds On most rigs---475 is speced! on this set up

[Grizzy]

Originally Posted by Big Z

Here's another Example for ya!

My hauler is rated for 10K, (9,950) Curd Weight = 4,732 Paylosd can be 5,218 Pounds

Tongue Weight is Maxed @ 1000 Pounds On most rigs---475 is speced! on this set up

NICE SETUP!!!! I LIKE I LIKE I LIKE!!!

[obzidian]

Gotcha!!!

This is my featherlite. I love this tailer. The side 5 foot door with the rear door make it a great trailer for load atv's, snow mobiles, my camaro and gear if i need to go to a track.. etc. Not to mention the v front, it helps out great when hauling it.

ITs gross weight is about 9,600. The trailer weighs about 3500 so i can stuff alot of toys in there!

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by Grizzy

NICE SETUP!!!! I LIKE I LIKE I LIKE!!!

Thanks! I pull it behind the Camper Also!

Another Big Z Custom in the works!

[Grizzy]

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by Grizzy

Big Z,

Simple question from the 'youngster that apparently doesn't know CHIT',,,

Other than being cheap, and you being lazy, name ONE advantage to a tow bar over using a good car hauler to haul an H2 behind an RV?

Maybe an old stupid fu**er like yourself should help educate stupid 'chits' like me instead of making dumba$$ comments like::

"Set Back and LEARN something Youngster! Or STFU!! Try to Comprehend what's been typed, do a little research on your own if you CAN'T get it!

People that Know a Chitload more than You!!
"



Instead of making senseless remarks to cover you being the biggest a-hole in the forums, try reading this topic yourself, again, and try answering a few questions. Other than being cheap and lazy, I dare you to come up with one good reason to use a tow bar over a car hauler to pull an H2 behind an RV.

LOL That's some funny $hit there!!

Other than being cheap and lazy, I dare you to come up with one good reason to use a tow bar over a car hauler to pull an H2 behind an RV.

There is NOTHING Cheap about a Properly set up Towing System!!

1.GOOD REASON) IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO TOW AN H2 BEHIND AN RV-- ONE THAT IS CAPABLE!, THAT IS!!


Reasons NOT to use a Car Hauler!

1.) IT'S ILLEGAL!
2.) IT'S UNSAFE!
3.) YOU WOULD NEED A COMMERCIAL PLATE AND A TRANSPORT HAULER TO CARRY A 2!
4.) CAN'T BE USE BEHIND 99.9% OF RV'S! (length & weight limits)

Maybe an old stupid fu**er like yourself should help educate stupid 'chits' like me instead of making dumba$$ comments like::

Been trying to do that through the WHOLE THREAD!!

You seem to be one that!...Just can't get it! Sry your Butt Hurt! lol

Let's make it a little easier for you!

1.) Show the specs on your car hauler, or one you Think you can use.

2.) the tow Rig you will be pulling it with?

Then we type!

[johndjmix1]

Lets all be honest here. Anyone that tows anything over 10,000 with a diesel pusher is DEFINATLY exceeding the GCWR (Thats the gross weight of rv and trailer.....and all your stuff). I challenge someone to show me a diesel pusher that doesnt exceed this with even a 5,000lb trailer and a normal amount of stuff for a trip in the rv.

My next coach will be a dynamax grandsport. Based on a truck its GCWR is 80,000 lbs I beleave.

--John

[OldHiker]

Originally Posted by johndjmix1

Lets all be honest here. Anyone that tows anything over 10,000 with a diesel pusher is DEFINATLY exceeding the GCWR (Thats the gross weight of rv and trailer.....and all your stuff). I challenge someone to show me a diesel pusher that doesnt exceed this with even a 5,000lb trailer and a normal amount of stuff for a trip in the rv.

My next coach will be a dynamax grandsport. Based on a truck its GCWR is 80,000 lbs I beleave.

--John

Hey John. Before shooting off with that pie hole, check your facts. This is my specs.
http://www.newmarcorp.com/essex/specsspartan2.php

Apology not required.

[johndjmix1]

Old hiker, when you get into tag axle rigs costing over $300,000 the GCWR's go way up. However, I would still almost bet that if you take your rig to the scales its much higher than on the MFG sticker. I know my fleetwood disovery is, my buddys bounder diesel is, even my old winie Brave was close to 2000# over.

If your not over, good for you... I wish i was in the same boat, like I said....i need a new rig badly!

What motor you got in that thing, Cummins ISX 600, 525???

--John