Hitch question

[Andre]

What dorp do i need to pull a boat trailer and for it to be level?

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Andre, this may help you. Then you could switch trailers and easily adjust the hitch. The pic is just one example.

http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/ball_mounts_special.htm]http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/b...l_mounts_special.htm]http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/b...l_mounts_special.htm

That was my first recommendation and I still got flamed.

I like these:
http://www.hitchsolutions.com/rapidhitch.html

<img src=http://www.hitchsolutions.com/images/rapidhitch.jpg> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't see that. And I doubt anyone else does. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You dont see what? I deleted the original post.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Who here actually thinks boat trailers are balanced on the hitch and not the axles? Anyone? Go outside now and read your hitch.. Does it not say max weight 500 lbs? Yeah..

Idiot.

Why do your posts seem to disappear or get edited? Speak ass, head's busy?

[Klaus]

From the 2005 H2 Owner's Manual:

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Sport, sorry your experience in life has been so short, small and insignificant. I've pulled many a boat with tongue weights in the 1,000lbs+ area. The heavier the boat the more tongue weight that's needed to keep the balance right. You can't just have all the weight on the trailer tires or it would fish-tail you all over the road.

Im sorry thats just not true. A boat is balanced on its axels not on the hitch. OMG already get a clue.

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Thats just not true. Sorry its not.. Not not not not not.. Ok? If you pull that kind of weight you need to use a gooseneck or some other in box hitch over the axle. No one pulls 1000lbs on the rear hitch, you'd pull wheelies.

I hate being the one to point out that your bulb is not at full wattage, but you look like a complete idiot. I have put 1000lbs of tongue weight on my H2.

I used to pull 8-15K lb offshore powerboats with rear hitches just like everybody else does. I pull dozers, tractors and all kinds of equipment with my bumper pull 3/4 ton and 1 ton farm trucks. Grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

500 lbs is the max for the h2 so you may wanna rethink that. See above post.

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by sfox:
Since you aren't willing to consider that this guys trailer may have a heavier tongue-weight than you are used to dealing with, your advice may not be/isn't valid and should not be given or taken.....you don't know what you are talking about.

S

The question was generalized. Its not about that anymore anyway. hehe

[DRTYFN]

This is some pretty extreme off-roading. Bet you had to cool off with a wine spritzer after that.

[PARAGON]

Don't listen to H2gayperson. First, some things need to be established. What size boat, type of trailer tongue, does it have surge brakes, etc.

If you have the rear air you don't need to expect the rear to sag any. If not, you need to think about how much tongue weight the trailer has.

You can't simply just go to walmart and get a hitch. Many of the hitches are designed for 5K pounds or less. You would be better served to go to an RV store and talk to them about it.

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
You might be needing around an 8". I don't really remember how low those trailers ride to the ground but I bet it's not close to level with your 2" drop. They are probably running on small 14" wheels and little tires so your drop needed might be more than you think.

Just use your trailer jack and set the trailer at even, where it should run. Back the truck up to it and measure from the top of your ball you have on there now to the top of the tongue where the ball connects. This should give you a rough idea of how much more drop to buy.

You already have 2" of drop and if the measurement is, say, a little over 5" or so, you would get an 8" drop.

Holy snap I got flamed for posting this exact response!

[KenP]

Andre, this may help you. Then you could switch trailers and easily adjust the hitch. The pic is just one example.

http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/...ts_special.htm

[Andre]

My boat is a seadoo speedster, right now i have a 2 inch drop and the boat does not sit level, just wondering what you guys were using for smaller boats or utility trailers.

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by KenP:
Andre, this may help you. Then you could switch trailers and easily adjust the hitch. The pic is just one example.

http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/b...l_mounts_special.htm

That was my first recommendation and I still got flamed.

I like these:
http://www.hitchsolutions.com/rapidhitch.html

<img src=http://www.hitchsolutions.com/images/rapidhitch.jpg>

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
My info was dead on sorry you dont know anything.. That was taken from a manual on towing, but Im the idiot.

WHat the hell does boat size and surge brakes have to do with ball height? WTF dude are you brain dead? And the brown noser under you too. hehe OMG man.

If your info was so dead on, why did you delete your posts? I am glad you admitted you were the idiot at least I'll feel better when I keep pointing that out.

For others that don't think they know it all. Surge brakes on a trailer require the tongue to mounted on top of the trailers frame. The average trailer that does not have surge brakes has the tonge mounted inline at the apex of the trailer frame. A surge trailer will require a shorter drop hitch than the same trailer if it didn't have surge brakes. That would be what surge brakes has to do with ball height.

Boat size goes to tonque weight which is a deciding factor if you have rear springs. A trailer with 750lb tongue weight is going to set the rear of the truck down lower than a trailer with a 100lb tongue weight. It's all really very simple, but H2GayPerson seems to be here only to be a ****head.

So again, don't listen to him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

None of that effects the height of the ball on the truck you need to think about it for a sec there Captain Brilliant. What boat has over 1 or 200 lbs tongue weight? I can lift the front of my 22' boat trailer by hand man. Its like 150 lbs. Trailers are designed that way bro.

[DRTYF? (the imposter)]

Originally posted by KenP:
http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm#refrn9

Single Axle: 10% minimum - 15% maximum
Tandem Axle: 9% - 15%
Travel Trailer: 11% - 12%
5th Wheel: 15% - 25%

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/bo_maintenance_repair/art...3718_2277896,00.html

Trailer Tongue -- This is the next boat-trailer component that Greviskis talks about. It's the long piece (see photo, right) that goes all the way down the boat trailer, from the coupler on back. The perfect weight distribution for the trailer tongue should be eight percent of the total boat and trailer weight combined.

Ok so whats the average trailerable boat weigh? 6000 lbs? So about 4 or 500 lbs tongue weight? My boat supposedly weighs 6500 lbs. I can lift the front by hand.. How is this possible?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Thats just not true. Sorry its not.. Not not not not not.. Ok? If you pull that kind of weight you need to use a gooseneck or some other in box hitch over the axle. No one pulls 1000lbs on the rear hitch, you'd pull wheelies.

I hate being the one to point out that your bulb is not at full wattage, but you look like a complete idiot. I have put 1000lbs of tongue weight on my H2.

I used to pull 8-15K lb offshore powerboats with rear hitches just like everybody else does. I pull dozers, tractors and all kinds of equipment with my bumper pull 3/4 ton and 1 ton farm trucks. Grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

500 lbs is the max for the h2 so you may wanna rethink that. See above post. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>500lbs is not the max. Did I not just say I've put 1000lbs on it?

500lbs is max suggested by GM for H2 w/o distribution. Doesn't mean you can't easily put more on it. Grow up.

[NoMoGMPG]

Paragon is right on, the amount of drop required is dependent on three factors:
1)Level height of the loaded trailer tonque to the ground
2)Tongue weight of the loaded trailer
3)Loaded height of the vehicle's platform hitch receiver, assuming you have the factory frame mounted hitch.

Towing a trailer safely should be a priority, not an afterthought. Have a professional assist you if you are unsure about anything. The Hummer you save may be mine.

Dave

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
I run a 11.5" for a utility trailer its real small. I have a Honda RX1200 myself and I use the 5 1/4" drop for that ski, its not perfectly level but its nice for cleaning.

Oh, so now you're calling your blowjob shack on wheels a "utility trailer"? Didn't you used to tow it behind this?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
My info was dead on sorry you dont know anything.. That was taken from a manual on towing, but Im the idiot.

WHat the hell does boat size and surge brakes have to do with ball height? WTF dude are you brain dead? And the brown noser under you too. hehe OMG man.

If your info was so dead on, why did you delete your posts? I am glad you admitted you were the idiot at least I'll feel better when I keep pointing that out.

For others that don't think they know it all. Surge brakes on a trailer require the tongue to mounted on top of the trailers frame. The average trailer that does not have surge brakes has the tonge mounted inline at the apex of the trailer frame. A surge trailer will require a shorter drop hitch than the same trailer if it didn't have surge brakes. That would be what surge brakes has to do with ball height.

Boat size goes to tonque weight which is a deciding factor if you have rear springs. A trailer with 750lb tongue weight is going to set the rear of the truck down lower than a trailer with a 100lb tongue weight. It's all really very simple, but H2GayPerson seems to be here only to be a ****head.

So again, don't listen to him.

[KenP]

Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Andre, this may help you. Then you could switch trailers and easily adjust the hitch. The pic is just one example.

http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/ball_mounts_special.htm]http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/b...l_mounts_special.htm]http://www.hitchfinder.com/drawtite/hitch_accessories/b...l_mounts_special.htm

That was my first recommendation and I still got flamed.

I like these:
http://www.hitchsolutions.com/rapidhitch.html

<img src=http://www.hitchsolutions.com/images/rapidhitch.jpg> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't see that. And I doubt anyone else does.