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Old 11-14-2007, 05:55 PM
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I kwow that on a Corvette, it's a bad idea to mout a smaller diameter tire on the rear as a spare, as the Vette has a positraction rear axle. It would cause the the posi clutches to activate in the rear and burn them out while traveling in a straight line since one tire's outside diameter is smaller then the other.

In other words, the rear diff would think it's turning a corner. Now.if the H3's diff has posi clutches..it's a No-No..!! Not sure if the 3's diff's are posi..??

Are they..???
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Default Re: Spare Tire question.

What about all those cars that come with a compact size spares? If I remember, they have a qualifier -- like "45 mph and 50 miles." I'm having trouble seeing how a 1" smaller diameter spare could be a problem if only used "sparingly". LOL.
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Old 11-14-2007, 07:22 PM
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What about all those cars that come with a compact size spares? If I remember, they have a qualifier -- like "45 mph and 50 miles." I'm having trouble seeing how a 1" smaller diameter spare could be a problem if only used "sparingly". LOL.


I think those are still the same outside diameter as the oiginal tire...just thinner.

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I think those are still the same outside diameter as the oiginal tire...just thinner.


Wrong, they are quite a bit smaller in diameter as well as being thinner. And worrying about using a 265 with 285s temporarily is just ridiculous.
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What about all those cars that come with a compact size spares? If I remember, they have a qualifier -- like "45 mph and 50 miles." I'm having trouble seeing how a 1" smaller diameter spare could be a problem if only used "sparingly". LOL.

you right, if its just for an emergency use the 265 till you can get the tire that went flat repaired. You just don't want to go hundreds of miles on the 2 different sizes...
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I kwow that on a Corvette...has a positraction rear axle.

Wrong there, too. Corvettes come standard with a limited-slip differential.

Don't think I've ever seen so much misinformation in one thread.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:45 PM
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Wrong there, too. Corvettes come standard with a limited-slip differential.

Don't think I've ever seen so much misinformation in one thread.

Wrong.. I own a 65 Corvette with a ZZ502 BB with Posi. Go on any Corvette forum and mention using a smaller diameter tire on one side on the rear with a Posi axle and see what kind of reaction you get.

And for your information .."Limited Slip" And "Posi Traction" are the same thing.

If you know how a posi works then you know that when one wheel slips, it slips against the internal posi clutches when traveling in a straight line. If you use a smaller diameter rear tire on a Corvette on one side of the rear, the clutches will slip all the time and burn up. Both wheels have to turn at the same speed to prevent the posi from engauging.



That's not missinformation ..But Fact


Don't think I've seen so much miss information from you.
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And for your information .."Limited Slip" And "Posi Traction" are the same thing.


That I know. I put my damn smilie face in the wrong place.

I was just trying to mess with you (GM stopped calling it a Positrac quite a while back), because even on a "positrac" rear end, using a smaller diameter tire for a short distance won't hurt anything....Vette forums be damned! LOL

I've owned 3 Vettes, so I know just a *little* about them.

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That I know. I put my damn smilie face in the wrong place.

I was just trying to mess with you (GM stopped calling it a Positrac quite a while back), because even on a "positrac" rear end, using a smaller diameter tire for a short distance won't hurt anything.

I've owned 3 Vettes, so I know just a *little* about them.

I've owned 9 Vette's in my time and hang on a Corvette forum where one of it's members is "John Z". John was a Drive Line Engineer back in the 60's and worked under "Zora" on the Corvette.

The spare tire topic came up once and went thru 2-3 pages. Most guys now use radial tires on there Mid-Years..(63-67) Corvettes. The problem is that that a spare radial doesn't fit flush in the spare tire carrier under the car. It hangs down due to it's thickness and in some cases it's diameter.

Someone posted the question about using a tire that was smaller in diameter then what he had on the car. John addressed what I have typed in regaurds to damaging the clutches. In other words...It's a Bad Idea.

Going a 100 feet or so might be ok, but remember...those clutches get hot fast and will burn up if the axle doesn't lock up.

When John Z talks..... Everyone listens..

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This horse is dead.

While I have your attention though, let me thank you for your service to our Country...and I do mean that seriously and sincerely. (We need a US Flag emoticon on this website.)

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This horse is dead.

While I have your attention though, let me thank you for your service to our Country...and I do mean that seriously and sincerely. (We need a US Flag emoticon on this website.)

Pete

Thanks Pete... I Appreciate that, Thank You.
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The problem is that that a spare radial doesn't fit flush in the spare tire carrier under the car. It hangs down due to it's thickness and in some cases it's diameter.
I guess that means you can't take your 'vette off road.
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I guess that means you can't take your 'vette off road.

Only when you put your foot in it ..in first gear..Then your off road.

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I own a 65 Corvette

Got any pics you can post...would LOVE to see it!
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Got any pics you can post...would LOVE to see it!

Here's one before the 502 Conversion...




Dec 2006 After the 502 Install Which was completed in 2004.





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Absolutely gorgeous. Can someone hand me a towel.
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Absolutely gorgeous. Can someone hand me a towel.

Thanks Pete..
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