rod hall h2 sut???

[H2 Maverick]

This is from the horses mouth instead of the other end. I was the project manager for the build of the H2 SUT race truck. This truck as well as the H3 and H3A race truck were all built at the GM Desert Proving Ground by one engineer and 4-6 technicians. In all cases the trucks are bone stock with the exception of spring rates, shocks and safety equipment. The H2 SUT runs in the SCORE Stock Full class (86X) and in the Stock Pickup BITD class (8111). The H3 runs SCORE Stock Mini (760) and Stock Mini SUV in BITD (3111). The H3A because of the V8 runs SCORE Stock Full against the H2 and in BITD it is in the Stock Fullsize SUV class (4111).

As per the rules, no suspension components are modified in any way. The engines in all three vehicles are completely production with air induction moved inside the cab for obvious reasons. Wiring harnesses were modified to remove unused circuits such as power door, window, radio, mirrors, etc.

The trucks do not just show up at the races for the Hall's to jump in and go. They have all been very involved in testing and development on each of the trucks. Hours and days in the desert between races.

Due to it's stellar fuel economy the H2 SUT runs a 70 gallon fuel cell.

Check out the latest article for the upcoming Baja 500... it has some pictures as well.

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/sto...-baja-500.html

[ROX]

Originally Posted by H2 Maverick

This is from the horses mouth instead of the other end. I was the project manager for the build of the H2 SUT race truck. This truck as well as the H3 and H3A race truck were all built at the GM Desert Proving Ground by one engineer and 4-6 technicians. In all cases the trucks are bone stock with the exception of spring rates, shocks and safety equipment. The H2 SUT runs in the SCORE Stock Full class (86X) and in the Stock Pickup BITD class (8111). The H3 runs SCORE Stock Mini (760) and Stock Mini SUV in BITD (3111). The H3A because of the V8 runs SCORE Stock Full against the H2 and in BITD it is in the Stock Fullsize SUV class (4111).

As per the rules, no suspension components are modified in any way. The engines in all three vehicles are completely production with air induction moved inside the cab for obvious reasons. Wiring harnesses were modified to remove unused circuits such as power door, window, radio, mirrors, etc.

The trucks do not just show up at the races for the Hall's to jump in and go. They have all been very involved in testing and development on each of the trucks. Hours and days in the desert between races.

Easy Mav. What Rocks is saying is that if you were to go buy a Hummer off the showroom, you couldn't make the same mods as easily in your own shop as 1 GM engineer and 6 techs with all the tools and equipment can remake them.(not to mention the checkbook) The roll cage is the perfect example because it is NOW incorporated into the frame, not bolted in like it used to be. (you couldn't do that to one off the showroom floor very easily) No one is saying its not cool. But the rules of Stock class are open to WIDE interpretation. I think the Halls are doing awesome, and I know they are involved in all the testing.

We've been to the Rod Hall Roundup three years in a row, and things have changed for the Team since then, haven't they?

As far as the trucks being race ready: I was led to believe they have less to do with actually working on them, and more to do with driving than they ever have. Whatever. Don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm sure it was just a little gloating over beers with a true Fan.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by RazM

That's exactly what they do, except you overly simplify a process which takes time and skill, you're also ignoring the safety requirement of a roll cage. Don't forget the driving skill is required too

No, actually your dumb ass is
H2rocksme & ROX did in fact have the opportunity to chat with Chad Hall about the Hall race trucks. The Halls are a super nice people. They love talking about rigs/tech/tools/etc.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by ROX

Easy Mav. What Rocks is saying is that if you were to go buy a Hummer off the showroom, you couldn't make the same mods as easily in your own shop as 1 GM engineer and 6 techs with all the tools and equipment can remake them.(not to mention the checkbook) The roll cage is the perfect example because it is NOW incorporated into the frame, not bolted in like it used to be. (you couldn't do that to one off the showroom floor very easily) No one is saying its not cool. But the rules of Stock class are open to WIDE interpretation. I think the Halls are doing awesome, and I know they are involved in all the testing.

We've been to the Rod Hall Roundup three years in a row, and things have changed for the Team since then, haven't they?

As far as the trucks being race ready: I was led to believe they have less to do with actually working on them, and more to do with driving than they ever have. Whatever. Don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm sure it was just a little gloating over beers with a true Fan.

No, that's not what H2 Rocks Me is saying at all. r3run33 asked how close these trucks are to Stock trucks, and they are INFACT, VERY close to stock trucks. Having the roll cage welded to the frame does NOT make it any less of a stock truck. I can read, and unless someone doesn't know how to express themselves, then they mean what they say. He clearly said that the only parts that remain stock are, and I quote "engine block and heads, trans case, number of shocks, and the body panels." That's a far cry from from everything remaining intact except for roll cage welded to frame, interior guts removed, shocks added, and safety mods added.

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

No, actually your dumb ass is
H2rocksme & ROX did in fact have the opportunity to chat with Chad Hall about the Hall race trucks. The Halls are a super nice people. They love talking about rigs/tech/tools/etc.

Who the hell is disputing that, facts remain facts, and claiming the Hall H2 is a complete ground up workover from a stock H2 is rubbish.

[TXSUT]

Originally Posted by H2 Maverick

In all cases the trucks are bone stock with the exception of spring rates, shocks...

As per the rules, no suspension components are modified in any way.

I really want nothing to do with the cat fight going on here, but was curious about the two statements above. How do they not contradict each other? It states that you cannot modify the suspension components in any way, but you can change spring rates and shocks. Are spring rates and shocks not considered "suspension components"?