Water Injection Installed

[johndjmix1]

Running the water injection allows you to run more IGN advance, and a leaner mixture....hence saving fuel. Its not really any "mystery"...thats a fact, I would like to see someone prove that wrong.

Cant beleave you guys havent heard of this....its common knowledge....been used for YEARS. I remember my 6th grade teacher did it on his mustang.

Ill post some pics tommorow if I remember, but basicly it involves this:

Get a strong container (I used a small gas can). run a line from manifold vac into the top of the can, just into the can *NOT* in the water. Drill a hole and feed the line in, but make it fit tightly as the can needs to be air tight.

Drill another hole in the top and run a line into the can to an aquairum air stone siting in the water. Have this line come out the top of the can and just cut it a few inchs over the top. I have 3 of these lines set up with 3 air stones.

Fill the can about 1/2 way with Water.

When you start the motor it will suck on the inside of the can, and you will see the can "suck in" a bit. The only way the vac can get air is through the air stone, which creastes bubbling water in the can. This bubbling creates a mist which then gets sucked into the motor from the vac line.

After a week im seeing about 3 mpg better than without it....not as good as I expected, but still....

Im trying to think up a better way to get a fine mist into the motor. Im thinking of buying a cool air humidifyer and taking it apart to see how it works.

The hydrogen generators are interesting, but it would seem it would take more power to make the hydrogen then is saved by it. Some say it works amazing and others say its a hoax Anyone tried this?

Guys, no laughing here....(. Just trying to figure out ways, like all of us, to save some cash at the pumps! Im just experimenting myself, but hey....I know there is a way to deliver the water right...just got to figure it out.

--John

[DRTYFN]

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[johndjmix1]

Anyone tryed the hydrogen products? Or do i have to be the guini pig for that too?

[Hummer Dog]

You can't make an efficient hydrogen refinery from a gasoline engine powered alternator. These systems remind me of perpetual motion claims.

I don't think you'll see any gains from water injection on a modern engine, unless your engine is running with retarded spark, you won't make more power or get better fuel economy. These systems worked great on carbureted, high compression muscle cars when premium fuel became hard to get. Water injection doesn't give you more energy, it subtracts energy from the combustion process, limiting peak temperatures and allows you to run MBT spark if you run low octane fuel.

[Albie]

I just gained 10mpg for free. I was heading down hill and put my gear into N and BAM 20.5 MPG....

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by Albie

I just gained 10mpg for free. I was heading down hill and put my gear into N and BAM 20.5 MPG....

Wow. Were your tires deflated? Check out my MPG.

[BlueTJCO]

[BigKofJustice]

Originally Posted by Hummer Dog

You can't make an efficient hydrogen refinery from a gasoline engine powered alternator. These systems remind me of perpetual motion claims.

I don't think you'll see any gains from water injection on a modern engine, unless your engine is running with retarded spark, you won't make more power or get better fuel economy. These systems worked great on carbureted, high compression muscle cars when premium fuel became hard to get. Water injection doesn't give you more energy, it subtracts energy from the combustion process, limiting peak temperatures and allows you to run MBT spark if you run low octane fuel.

You hit the nail on the head Dog.

If there is a Wikipedia article to be referenced in regards to HHO/water to hydrogen systems, it should be this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_thermodynamics

Because these snake oil salesmen are breaking #2.