Jersey's H3 and the Tale of 25MPG

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Had a friend that loved marvel mystery oil. He used to blend that product. MMO looked like auto trans fluid into his gas at fill up. Claimed it lubed his cylinders and got him better mpg...

Never saw any real data on results...

This sounds interesting ca40g. I would be interested in long term study data.

If farmers use it thats usually a good testimony.

Farmers are always a tough sell.

[Gunner_45]

I'm not sure I trust these short hop figures you are posting here brother.

What would be more meaningful in my opinion, are mpg averages per TANK.

At the moment, with an AirDoc CAI, PCM tune and running Swampers, I'm averaging 16 to 16.5 mpg per tank and I'm happy with that. However, if this product could add another 2 or 3 mpg and does not prove to be detrimental to the overall health and well being of my motor, I'd be very interested.

Sorry, just my skeptical nature coming out....

So...let's see some mpg per tank figures.....

[jersey]

Originally Posted by Gunner_45

So...let's see some mpg per tank figures.....

G-man,

I'd like to help out by running my tank empty for you, but that's not how I drive. I'm not a sales person. I'm not 'out-for-profit'. I'm just sharing info. Let me state unequivocally that I'm not testing this product to see if it works. It works. Of that I have no doubt. I've used it for over a year. I'm just testing to see how well it works given my vehicle('06 H3), my driving habits(virtually no offroading), my lay of the land(mainly NJ highway). To that end, I'm happy to post what I achieve by using the product, for the purpose of satisfying other's curiosity and because I am legitimately impressed by it.

The raw data on this product is available on the ca40g website.
Anyone interested can check it out.

I stand by my personal results with the caviat that it's understood that these results are unique to me and my vehicle. Your results may vary. And like others, I too, am curious about what others would get so please, if you try it, post your results.

Thanks for understanding

[jersey]

Ok, this mornings trip in was interesting because I left a half hour later than usual. More traffic, but no traffic jams and I only touched my brakes a few times the whole way.

On my days off I racked up 154.8 miles. Some highway, some city, some beach.

My refill was 6.90 gallons @ $3.83 per gallon

My bill was $26.50

My Averaged MPG: 22.43mpg

This AM, having topped off with 6.9 gallons...and going to work...

My total travel mileage was 74.1 miles

My refill was 3.103 gallons @ $3.71 per gallon <-lowest price I've seen in months!

My bill was $11.54!

My Averaged MPG: 23.90 mpg

I'd say this is fairly consistant. Wouldn't you? The test continues tomorrow for my return trip. I'll probably post it the next day though.

See pics of my gas receipts...

Note: The top off receipt after I made the trip this AM was at a different station along the route to work and I stopped because I saw that price $3.71! Anyway its 10 blocks from work instead of 5. No biggie. Also, their CC machine only shows price paid at the pump not gallons, you should have seen the guys face when I asked for a receipt that showed the gallons/price numbers. Man was he mad as he handwrote the info on a receipt pad that hasnt been used since before they moved to North Bergen!
Anyway here they are; 2 from this mornings fill up before the trip, two from this morning after the trip to work. Hope you find the info useful!

[6pack]

I'll give it a shot. I ordered it and will chime in as to how it works. It looks like 1 ounce of CA40 per 20 gallons? Is that what you're adding jersey?

[H_Cubed]

Hmm, after reading up on Calcium Sulfonate (the main ingredient of CA40), i'm gonna pass on this one. Calcium Sulfonate has been used for many years in motor and lubricating oils as a detergent and thickening agent. You would think that if this was some breaking new product, gasoline would already contain it.

There are a number of questions on how this stuff works exactly, from what I read on their website it appears it works on the exhaust system and the O2 sensor, to fool the PCM into running the fuel mixture lean, producing higher engine temperatures resulting in some marginally better fuel economy. If thats the case, small quantities Acetone could do the same thing at ratios 1 oz. per 15-20 gallons (and be waaay cheaper!). However running your engine very lean (therefore hotter) might be detrimental over a long period of time. Not only is a lean condition potentially damaging, it can very quickly heat up your catalytic converter, destroying it or worse still cause a fire under it.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

now thats an interesting take on the product...

[jersey]

Hey H,
Thanks for researching in greater detail. I'm happy to report that for the year and months that I've been using the product in my 2 vehicles, I've never experienced a CAT fire, nor an increase in heat. I work for a city fire department and I'm also happy to report that none of the 1,733 car fires I've researched on my CAD show the origin/source in the last 5 years were CAT related. In fact most car fires we experienced were sourced by engine compartment fires involving fuel leaks and by electrical fires in the dashboard.
My understanding of this product in particular is that it bonds to the gas on a molecular level causing it to burn in its entirety reducing the amoout of unburnt fuel going to the CAT. Less combustible material reaching the CAT indicates to me that the CAT would not be as hot as normal because there is less fuel for it burn. In the fire industry we call that a good thing.

[jersey]

I do 1 ounce per 15 gallons. Any more gas and I'd add a pinch more. I bought the syringe they offer for 5 bucks. For my first full tank of gas I added 35ml. I rarely let it go lower than 3/4 full, so I just add a pinch when I need to.

[Kaiser Souza]

Jersey you have inspired me. I got a bottle on ebay for $21 total and will post a report in a few weeks.

I have been hypermiling in LA traffic and have achieved +2mpg with driving style and +1mpg running the tires@50psi.