Anyone wheel their H3 ?

[RuggedH2]

I don't see a pissing contest.

Individual perspective seems to make all the difference.

What we see depends largely on where we stand.

I see three owners of both an H2 and H3 speaking of their own experience with the 2 different vehicles. I don't read any insults being sent at either vehicle.

If anyone cares to read my past posts they can easily check and they will see that I don't insult H3's and have stood up for them many times on this board. I've been involved in a few feuds over this very subject when insults were being hurled at H3's and their owners.

That doesn't mean I don't have my own opinions that some others here may or may not agree with. Those opinions are based on my experiences.

When someone says the H3 is just as capable as the H2, if not more so in some conditions.........I disagree. I haven't seen that to be true. So I said so. I think I tried to leave it at that. I'm not trying to piss people off or insult them.

I realize that the turning radius and gearing is better in the off road package H3 than the H2 and I said that in an earlier post. I do believe the H3 is a safe truck, a great wheelin' rig, and a comfortable driver (that's why I didn't sell it when I got the H2). I take the H3 when the trails are tight because I can. I own an H3 because I want to.

I haven't insulted the H3.

I do see others get offended when it is said that an H2 can do some things an H3 can't do. I've seen it.

I haven't seen an H3 do things an H2 can't do. There might be many places the H2's 6 inches wider width may
make that the case, but I haven't seen it. The H3 might be able to ford a few inches more water..... but where has that stopped an H2...... that an H3 made it?

I have many friends with H3's........ and some are very good drivers. I respect many of the people that have posted on this thread, and even if I don't concur with all their opinions all the time..... I still respect their experience and knowledge.

rck0025, you just got here..... you don't even know what the fawk you're talking about. That sure hasn't kept you from posting your "know it all already" B.S. on lots of threads. Post up your own wheelin pics! Talk is cheap.

[rck0025]

Check your panties bro, all is well. I guess you missed the part that says just kidding.

[3Hummer]

can't we all just be friends i mean common were hating our own blood here afterall were all Hummers

[rck0025]

I agree, in all my newbie "know-it-all" greatness. So if I said anything that was offensive, I apologize. Now that the air is clear, how bout a little help in the technical forum -still waiting for advice on the Alpha's exhaust.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by RuggedH2

I don't see a pissing contest.

Individual perspective seems to make all the difference.

What we see depends largely on where we stand.

I see three owners of both an H2 and H3 speaking of their own experience with the 2 different vehicles. I don't read any insults being sent at either vehicle.

If anyone cares to read my past posts they can easily check and they will see that I don't insult H3's and have stood up for them many times on this board. I've been involved in a few feuds over this very subject when insults were being hurled at H3's and their owners.

That doesn't mean I don't have my own opinions that some others here may or may not agree with. Those opinions are based on my experiences.

When someone says the H3 is just as capable as the H2, if not more so in some conditions.........I disagree. I haven't seen that to be true. So I said so. I think I tried to leave it at that. I'm not trying to piss people off or insult them.

I realize that the turning radius and gearing is better in the off road package H3 than the H2 and I said that in an earlier post. I do believe the H3 is a safe truck, a great wheelin' rig, and a comfortable driver (that's why I didn't sell it when I got the H2). I take the H3 when the trails are tight because I can. I own an H3 because I want to.

I haven't insulted the H3.

I do see others get offended when it is said that an H2 can do some things an H3 can't do. I've seen it.

I haven't seen an H3 do things an H2 can't do. There might be many places the H2's 6 inches wider width may
make that the case, but I haven't seen it. The H3 might be able to ford a few inches more water..... but where has that stopped an H2...... that an H3 made it?

I have many friends with H3's........ and some are very good drivers. I respect many of the people that have posted on this thread, and even if I don't concur with all their opinions all the time..... I still respect their experience and knowledge.

rck0025, you just got here..... you don't even know what the fawk you're talking about. That sure hasn't kept you from posting your "know it all already" B.S. on lots of threads. Post up your own wheelin pics! Talk is cheap.

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I agree, I have never seen you insult the H3 and you're always very objective on both the H2 and H3. I don't think anyone is accusing you of that.

When I responded to your post, I asked you if your experience with the H2 was solely based off a heavily modified and lifted rig, which is the case. I personally don't think it's a fair comparison and was asking for a more stock to stock comparison.

I certainly hope you're not talking about me as getting "offended." That's just silly and I haven't said one thing where it could even be taken as that.

Where I did get offended was when Tomp came in with his speech and talking to me as if I was trolling or flaming him in any way. I asked him a simple question (which he even quoted me on), and in no way was it "defensive" as he puts it.

Then you come in and tell me to "chill" and that I was coming off as defensive. There's nothing quite as annoying than when people tell you to "chill" and "don't get so defensive" when everything you said was calm and polite. The weird part is, I think I've been more than fair and stated over and over that I respect the H2, and I was asking you and Tomp why you felt the H2 did better on the same obstacle vs. an H3, and all I got in response was hostility (from Tomp mainly and then your response to me on my response to him ((omfg we sound like old women)).

I just think, when you guys start talking about how you've seen or accomplished things in the H2 and you don't feel the H3 could do it, just be constructive and state WHY, and where you felt the vehicle lacked. That'll put an end to any hostility.

I still believe the H2 and H3 are very close in capabilities, and each has its strengths, and any of this "buy an H2 instead" crap is the most pointless thing ever. This isn't pointed to anyone in particular, but there are those H2 owners who act like certain H1 owners who will never give the H2 a chance.

[RuggedH2]

Raz,

I've taken a few classes on interpersonal communications...... I've been taught that 5% of the communications process is the words. 95% of the process is in inflection, tone, and non-verbal mannerisms.

Here all we have are the words. I have had many things I've said taken other than how I intended for them to be. I'm sure it happens to all of us.

As far as all this crap goes..... I'm not pissed..... or at you at all.

Our own perspective really does effect us all.

I didn't see the owned sign......maybe it was there. But I don't think Tomp was trying to insult you either.

Chill is a word I use to tell my friends to relax. I realize now that you were not fired up but with just the words...... I thought you sounded that way.

As far as the why......... specific examples may help you understand but they could also make other people angry. I'm not trying to piss off other people that I respect. We all love our rigs.

I do agree that the capabilities of the rigs are close.

My comparisons between my own rigs were close also. The only modifications done to my H2 during the times I was talking about involved a lift with additional brackets that hung down (since removed). I think it was a fair comparison with the mods done to the H3 at the time. Both rigs had rock tires 2" larger than stock. If anything the H3 had some advantage because I added sliders to the spring hangers and the lift on the H2 hung up where a stock one wouldn't have.

There are H2 owners that like to fling sh!t. I've seen it too. I'm not one of them and I don't think Tomp is either.

I've had the good fortune to walk trails that H1's were struggling with..... but that doesn't mean I think my H2 will out-wheel an H1. I've done things in the governments Humvees that I'm sure would have pulled the entire suspension out of my truck and left it laying in pieces all along the ground.

[timgco]

Ok, even though this thread was about the H3 (this person has no desire or care about info on teh H2) which truck is really better?

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by timgco

Ok, even though this thread was about the H3 (this person has no desire or care about info on teh H2) which truck is really better?

Yeah that kind of crap never happens around here.

We always stick to just what the original thread starter wishes to discuss.

Hell Dan's trying to sell him a Jeep. LOL!