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08-07-2008, 04:14 PM
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Re: Flex Fuel 2009 H2 - my interest is up
I currently have a 2008 H2 that I blend ethanol in. I blend at 30% and it has not changed my mileage at all. In fact the rough idle issue on the '08s is completely gone once I begain blending at that percentage.
As far as ethanol causing increase in food costs that is a myth. The two factors that conribute to the increase is higher cost of manufacturing and increase transportation charges. There are many more that could be listed;ie: labor, utilities, land cost, taxes and so on.
On the flip side of ethanol, I would rather my money stayed in the US and helped the farmers than continuing to send it overseas. Ethanol is not the solution to the fuel problem but a bridge to offset our oil consumption until other sources can be found and/or developed. If we could reduce our dependence on foreign oil by 30%, wouldn't that just make a lot of sense?!
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08-07-2008, 04:56 PM
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Re: Flex Fuel 2009 H2 - my interest is up
go ahead and take a look athe adjusted price for e85 currently today the average price for regular gasoline is 3.849 and the average price for e85 is 3.111 but adjusted for its gas mileage is 4.093 a gallong your parying more! in reality heres thee exact quote of what the comparison is
"**The BTU-adjusted price of E-85 is the nationwide average price of E-85 adjusted to reflect the lower energy content as expressed in British Thermal Units - and hence miles per gallon - available in a gallon of E-85 as compared to the same volume of conventional gasoline. The BTU-adjusted price calculated by OPIS and AAA is not an actual retail average price paid by consumers. It is calculated and displayed as part of AAA's Fuel Gauge Report because according to the Energy Information Administration E-85 delivers approximately 25 percent fewer BTUs by volume than conventional gasoline. Because "flexible fuel" vehicles can operate on conventional fuel and E-85,the BTU-adjusted price of E-85 is essential to understanding the cost implications of each fuel choice for consumers."
www.fuelgaugereport.com
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08-07-2008, 06:00 PM
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Re: Flex Fuel 2009 H2 - my interest is up
That fuel gauge site is a GREAT SITE! Thanks for posting it!!!
According to GM the 2009 E85 engines have "improved computer technology and cylinder design," to be more efficient than previous flex fuel engines. When the flex technology was looked at in 2005, it was more a novelty than a necessity, and the engine tweaks were almost entirely with the engine management computer. How much better the 2009 flex engines are we will find out soon from consumer groups and vehicle testers.
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08-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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Re: Flex Fuel 2009 H2 - my interest is up
Hummer dealer by me has a few 2009 H2 and H3s already with e85 motors
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08-08-2008, 04:38 AM
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Re: Flex Fuel 2009 H2 - my interest is up
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Originally Posted by 3Hummer
go ahead and take a look athe adjusted price for e85 currently today the average price for regular gasoline is 3.849 and the average price for e85 is 3.111 but adjusted for its gas mileage is 4.093 a gallong your parying more! in reality heres thee exact quote of what the comparison is
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So what? Your money is not going over seas to people who hate us even though we make them rich. Be patriotic and pay a couple of cents more! The whole food price increase is BS. That is temporary until we catch up to the demand by planting more crops. We have plenty of fertile land to produce enough food and ethanol. Anyone who tells you diffrently is full of it. It will bring back rural life.
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08-08-2008, 04:44 AM
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Re: Flex Fuel 2009 H2 - my interest is up
i didnt mention food in my post ethnol is a bs solution to the whole problem its a temporary fix till it gets effed up
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