Heckler & Koch HK45c

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Be careful where you point that bad boy!

Good luck with it

[richl]

i have a full size usp . and love it to death ..........

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Glock 40 S&W 4 clips internal laser needs no back up by any other pistol, SP5 machine pistol maybe yes in case you need volume with precision.

Coked up bad guy high as clouds 1 shot Federal Hypershock 180 gr. 40 S&W center mass and he will reverse his approach at you, even if at a fast rate, so quickly the person will not in most circustances not know what hit him. The internal laser the most accurate choice will allow you to strike your target at a good 25 yards.

Key to lethality is the heaviness off bullet used, grains of power and most importantly the ammo you use is subsonic. To high muzzle velocity and you get to much penetration which reduces knock down power. That is 1 reason assault units prefer subsonic ammo reguardless of caliber. Smaller caliber may just need 2 rounds instead of 1. No disrespect for any ammo it is I just look at stopping power and only other caliber I would use and most likely prefer except for concealment issues to carry is 1911 .45 ACP which will do the same job. Guns usually get heavier with caliber but, was designed to be a one shot knock down caliber by USA military for like since 1911 til Army went to the weak and less accurate in my opinion 9mm. You have to empty a clip of 9mm UCP to stop certain insurgents just one at a time. Just wrong move by military to move away from 45 caliber 1911 but, they felt the gun now used was better choice because ammo weighed less which allowed a soldier to carry more ammo. Well I hope he is allowed to carry it by the bandolero. Unless you can get a head shot every time you will need to shot the enemy 2 to 4 times.

Oh well just my thought about some stuff.

TAZ

[speednr1]

Originally Posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ

Glock 40 S&W 4 clips internal laser needs no back up by any other pistol, SP5 machine pistol maybe yes in case you need volume with precision.

Coked up bad guy high as clouds 1 shot Federal Hypershock 180 gr. 40 S&W center mass and he will reverse his approach at you, even if at a fast rate, so quickly the person will not in most circustances not know what hit him. The internal laser the most accurate choice will allow you to strike your target at a good 25 yards.

Key to lethality is the heaviness off bullet used, grains of power and most importantly the ammo you use is subsonic. To high muzzle velocity and you get to much penetration which reduces knock down power. That is 1 reason assault units prefer subsonic ammo reguardless of caliber. Smaller caliber may just need 2 rounds instead of 1. No disrespect for any ammo it is I just look at stopping power and only other caliber I would use and most likely prefer except for concealment issues to carry is 1911 .45 ACP which will do the same job. Guns usually get heavier with caliber but, was designed to be a one shot knock down caliber by USA military for like since 1911 til Army went to the weak and less accurate in my opinion 9mm. You have to empty a clip of 9mm UCP to stop certain insurgents just one at a time. Just wrong move by military to move away from 45 caliber 1911 but, they felt the gun now used was better choice because ammo weighed less which allowed a soldier to carry more ammo. Well I hope he is allowed to carry it by the bandolero. Unless you can get a head shot every time you will need to shot the enemy 2 to 4 times.

Oh well just my thought about some stuff.

TAZ

is the military not moving to sig229 .40 now?

[TXSUT]

Originally Posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ

...4 clips ...a clip...

About "clips" please read: http://www.thegunzone.com/clips-mags.html Sorry, but that is a pet peeve of mine.

Originally Posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ

...internal laser ...The internal laser the most accurate choice...

If you are referring to the lasers that replace the guide rod, I disagree. The guide rod is held captive by a spring, a spring that moves, as does the guide rod, when the action is cycled. Solid-mounted units like laser grips (e.g. Crimson Trace) and rail-mounted laser units are much more likely to stay zeroed after each shot. That has been my personal, firsthand experience after trying various units of each type on various handguns. IMO, the only advantages that the guide rod lasers have is that they are more protected from external abuses and are less cumbersome.

HK makes fine weapons, as does Glock, as does Sig, and many others. When you are talking about these types of companies and their products, much of it boils down to personal preferences, i.e., it's a very subjective issue.

[speednr1]

he said clips

clips are good when your shooting sideways gangsta style. aren't they.

[ATRH2]

Originally Posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ

Glock 40 S&W 4 clips internal laser needs no back up by any other pistol, SP5 machine pistol maybe yes in case you need volume with precision.

Coked up bad guy high as clouds 1 shot Federal Hypershock 180 gr. 40 S&W center mass and he will reverse his approach at you, even if at a fast rate, so quickly the person will not in most circustances not know what hit him. The internal laser the most accurate choice will allow you to strike your target at a good 25 yards.

Key to lethality is the heaviness off bullet used, grains of power and most importantly the ammo you use is subsonic. To high muzzle velocity and you get to much penetration which reduces knock down power. That is 1 reason assault units prefer subsonic ammo reguardless of caliber. Smaller caliber may just need 2 rounds instead of 1. No disrespect for any ammo it is I just look at stopping power and only other caliber I would use and most likely prefer except for concealment issues to carry is 1911 .45 ACP which will do the same job. Guns usually get heavier with caliber but, was designed to be a one shot knock down caliber by USA military for like since 1911 til Army went to the weak and less accurate in my opinion 9mm. You have to empty a clip of 9mm UCP to stop certain insurgents just one at a time. Just wrong move by military to move away from 45 caliber 1911 but, they felt the gun now used was better choice because ammo weighed less which allowed a soldier to carry more ammo. Well I hope he is allowed to carry it by the bandolero. Unless you can get a head shot every time you will need to shot the enemy 2 to 4 times.

Oh well just my thought about some stuff.

TAZ