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06-17-2010, 04:28 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by Scarsman
So Rare Parts are the ones to go with these days? I just found out my stock ones are starting to get a little play in them, so I will need to replace them soon. I will be upgrading them, and I am researching options right now.
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When I get some time in my schedule this is the combo I am going to go with. The price seems pretty good:
http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_...roducts_id=273
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Show me a H2 owner with low profile street tires and I will show you a guy who thinks the coolest way to shoot a Glock is cocked sideways.
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06-17-2010, 05:28 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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The price is pretty dang nice, I think from Rare Parts the rods are about $200/ea and the Congnito kit is $200'ish as well. (correct me if I'm wrong) Will you replace your p/i arms with OEM replacements or something else?
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06-17-2010, 02:03 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
Update, and a question...
o UCAK100044 (Cognito - H2 Uni-ball Upper Control Arms)
o UCAK100001 (Cognito - front end level kit)
o BILSTEIN-BE5-E381-T0 (Cognito - longer-than-stock shocks for use with UCAK100001)
o SBELKHD-1000 (Cognito - end-links for use with UCAK100001)
o PISK2008 (Cognito - pitman/idler support kit)
o IPAWG8 (Cognito - Idler Pivot kit)
o RP28559 (Rare Parts - Xtreme Duty Tie Rods)
Ok, so I found the part number for the Rare Parts tie rods and listed it above, but while looking at the DMAX store I also noticed the DMAX KRYPTONITE Series Tie Rods. The cost is $70 more than the Rare Parts tie rods, but not sure the cost is justified.
Thanks guys, keep the suggestions and ideas coming. Once the list is honed then maybe I/we can do a complete kit deal search.
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2000 HUMMER HMCS, kevlar flat black, Rubber Duck lift, Predator stage 3 kit, Predator (Wilwood) Big Brake kit, a work in progress...
2008 H2, graystone, air suspension (DELETED), U-steps, SMA brushguard w/valance (DRLs replaced by PIAA 520s), black taillight guards/locking fuel door/roof crossbars (x4), Cognito UCA/pitman-idler, Bilstein shocks, Rancho steering stabilizer, Kryptonite tie rods, green keys, Fuel D525 20" Revolver, 37" Nitto Ridge Grappler
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06-17-2010, 03:43 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by seventwozero
The price is pretty dang nice, I think from Rare Parts the rods are about $200/ea and the Congnito kit is $200'ish as well. (correct me if I'm wrong) Will you replace your p/i arms with OEM replacements or something else?
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Mine are fine for now and I've never heard of them breaking (like the tie rods will). So if it ain't broke . . .
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06-17-2010, 04:38 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
Great info guys. I have the Fabtechs now. While they have stood the test of offroad durability the inner ball joints are worn and I am on the market for new ones. From what I understand Fabtech uses a nylon bushing on the innter ball joint that wears down.... I just wonder if there is a way to service this? Maybe replace it with a brass bushing???
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06-17-2010, 07:22 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
Hey Eric,
I was just reading through your old thread and wanted to ask about the 'green keys'. Are the green keys required when using the Cognito kit? As far as I can tell, the Cognito kit provides new upper control arms and shock mount extender brackets* but doesn't actually raise the front end, is that right? If that's true then either the stock keys need to be turned up, or swapped out with the green keys.
* - I won't use the brackets and will opt for longer shocks instead (BILSTEIN-BE5-E381-T0). 
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2000 HUMMER HMCS, kevlar flat black, Rubber Duck lift, Predator stage 3 kit, Predator (Wilwood) Big Brake kit, a work in progress...
2008 H2, graystone, air suspension (DELETED), U-steps, SMA brushguard w/valance (DRLs replaced by PIAA 520s), black taillight guards/locking fuel door/roof crossbars (x4), Cognito UCA/pitman-idler, Bilstein shocks, Rancho steering stabilizer, Kryptonite tie rods, green keys, Fuel D525 20" Revolver, 37" Nitto Ridge Grappler
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06-18-2010, 08:28 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by KT2T
Hey Eric,
I was just reading through your old thread and wanted to ask about the 'green keys'. Are the green keys required when using the Cognito kit? As far as I can tell, the Cognito kit provides new upper control arms and shock mount extender brackets* but doesn't actually raise the front end, is that right? If that's true then either the stock keys need to be turned up, or swapped out with the green keys.
* - I won't use the brackets and will opt for longer shocks instead (BILSTEIN-BE5-E381-T0). 
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Correct its the green keys that give you the lift. In most cases the factory keys do not have enough adjustment left to effectively lift the H2. The H2 keys were designed for 3/4 ton trucks that actually weigh less than the H2 so from the factory they are already cranked further than they would be on a 2500 truck.
I am going with the new Racho RS5000's They just released a set for a torsion bar lifted H2. Now if someone just had them in stock....
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06-20-2010, 02:31 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...air/index.html.
I am thinking the Borgeson steering shaft needs to be the first steering upgrade for my new to me 2005 H2.
Anyone disagree that this is a good first mod for H2 steering?
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06-24-2010, 01:42 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by HumminNBoatin'
Correct its the green keys that give you the lift. In most cases the factory keys do not have enough adjustment left to effectively lift the H2. The H2 keys were designed for 3/4 ton trucks that actually weigh less than the H2 so from the factory they are already cranked further than they would be on a 2500 truck.
I am going with the new Racho RS5000's They just released a set for a torsion bar lifted H2. Now if someone just had them in stock....
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when you find out that information, let me know as i plan on replacing my front shocks, but no lift other than Tbars.
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