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06-23-2010, 11:53 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
Has anybody tried these tie rods. $179 each.
http://www.hendersonslineup.com/prod...rod-8-lug.html
They are the ones who make the idler arm support and brace kit-$392
http://www.hendersonslineup.com/prod...bly-8-lug.html
Here is the page that shows what they make/sell-
http://www.hendersonslineup.com/prod...-tracking.html
I am going with supersteer parts to upgrade my H2 front end after looking at every other brand. If you notice, Cognito is selling their parts as well. They also have upgrades for the rear suspension.
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06-23-2010, 10:15 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
I looked at the installation instructions for the SS175 on their site and there are no specific instructions for the H2 as there are in the Cognito IPAWG8 installation documentation. Hmm. The Cognito documentation is very specific, with pictures, regarding the installation of the IPAWG8 in a HUMMER H2, and even if it is the same part as the Henderson, I will support the vendor who goes to that amount of trouble to detail H2-specific modifications.
o UCAK100001 (Cognito - front end level kit)
o BILSTEIN-BE5-E381-T0 (Cognito - longer-than-stock shocks for use with UCAK100001)
o SBELKHD-1000 (Cognito - end-links for use with UCAK100001)
o PISK2008 (Cognito - pitman/idler support kit)
o IPAWG8 (Cognito - Idler Pivot kit)
o RP28559 (Rare Parts - Xtreme Duty Tie Rods)
o RS5407 (Rancho steering stabilzer)
o GM green keys (3" lift to the front) $44 15592573 (ORDERED)
After talking to Cognito, I have opted for the UCAK00001 over the UCAK00044 since the -01 has bolt-on, replaceable balljoints instead of the pressed-in uniballs of the -44.
I have a call in to the DMAXSTORE right now to get some specifics on the differences between the Rare Parts Xtreme Duty tie rods and their DMAX KRYPTONITE series tie rods. I will post a follow-up with those details.
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2000 HUMMER HMCS, kevlar flat black, Rubber Duck lift, Predator stage 3 kit, Predator (Wilwood) Big Brake kit, a work in progress...
2008 H2, graystone, air suspension (DELETED), U-steps, SMA brushguard w/valance (DRLs replaced by PIAA 520s), black taillight guards/locking fuel door/roof crossbars (x4), Cognito UCA/pitman-idler, Bilstein shocks, Rancho steering stabilizer, Kryptonite tie rods, green keys, Fuel D525 20" Revolver, 37" Nitto Ridge Grappler
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06-26-2010, 06:56 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by KT2T
I have a call in to the DMAXSTORE right now to get some specifics on the differences between the Rare Parts Xtreme Duty tie rods and their DMAX KRYPTONITE series tie rods.
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I'm interested in DMAX's response as well.
Maybe try and set up a group buy
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06-26-2010, 11:43 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
Quote:
I'm interested in DMAX's response as well.
Maybe try and set up a group buy
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Excelent idea! Let us know what you find out.
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Mirror caps - black bedliner
Roof rack rails - black bedliner
Wheels - Black bedliner on stock wheels
Gas cap lid - still chrome but will soon be black bedliner
Tail light guards - still chrome but will be black bedliner
Grill - Still chrome but will be black bedliner
Hmmmm, is there a pattern developing here?
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06-27-2010, 12:26 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by NJ H2
I'm interested in DMAX's response as well.
Maybe try and set up a group buy
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Count me in as another who would participate.
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06-27-2010, 06:13 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by NJ H2
I'm interested in DMAX's response as well.
Maybe try and set up a group buy
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Got a voicemail from a guy at the dmaxstore and the gist of it is that the KRYPTONITE bars are a bit 'thicker' and can be adjusted on both the inner and outer sides, whereas the Rare Parts tie rods can only be adjusted from the inside.
Personally, I think I am going to go with the Rare Parts tie rods for two reasons. One, I think (and could be wrong) that the one-piece outer of the Rare Parts would be more robust then the threaded stud that makes the KRYPTONITE adjustable on the outside. The other reason is that I just don't see $70 worth of difference that would draw me away from the Rare Parts tie rods.
Thus far, the only site I can find that has all of the kits parts I want, sans Rare Parts tie rods, is Trail Duty. I will keep digging and update my list of vendors (with prices), but unless something big turns up then I will probably get it all (minus tie rods) from Trail Duty and then pick up the Rare Parts tie rods from DMAXSTORE. Of course, if there is enough interest in this whole package then maybe a group buy for the kit could be possible if someone wants to run with it.
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2000 HUMMER HMCS, kevlar flat black, Rubber Duck lift, Predator stage 3 kit, Predator (Wilwood) Big Brake kit, a work in progress...
2008 H2, graystone, air suspension (DELETED), U-steps, SMA brushguard w/valance (DRLs replaced by PIAA 520s), black taillight guards/locking fuel door/roof crossbars (x4), Cognito UCA/pitman-idler, Bilstein shocks, Rancho steering stabilizer, Kryptonite tie rods, green keys, Fuel D525 20" Revolver, 37" Nitto Ridge Grappler
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06-29-2010, 02:40 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
After speaking to the DMAX store I think I am going to go with the KRYPTONITE! It's made by RarePArts to DMAX specs which they claim to be much stronger than RareParts. Alos KRYPTONITE have a longer 5 year Waranty.
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06-29-2010, 04:44 AM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by NJ H2
After speaking to the DMAX store I think I am going to go with the KRYPTONITE! It's made by RarePArts to DMAX specs which they claim to be much stronger than RareParts. Alos KRYPTONITE have a longer 5 year Waranty.
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I could go for the Kryptonite tie rods if DMAX could put together a similar combo deal like the Rare Parts tie rods and Cognito Support Kit. That combo saves you about $100 compared to other on-line sources where you buy them separately.
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06-29-2010, 12:29 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
just to clarify,
i would be interested in the Rancho shocks for 2" T Bars lifts.
I have the Fabtech Tierods that will be going on at some point.
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06-29-2010, 01:00 PM
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Re: Upgrading the steering
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Originally Posted by VegasGuy
I could go for the Kryptonite tie rods if DMAX could put together a similar combo deal like the Rare Parts tie rods and Cognito Support Kit. That combo saves you about $100 compared to other on-line sources where you buy them separately.
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I asked DMAX about a Group buy and they said that the price they offer the KRYPTONITE for is the lowest they can go without outsourcing to China and we definatly don't want that to happen so unless they can offer the other parts you want for less a group buy is out. I already have the cognito sup kit and Moog Ball Joints so I am only gettting the KRYPTONITE T Rods.
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