H2 and SD photoshoot.

[Boss Hoss]

I have never heard the phrase "if its going to happen it is going to happen to me", you may have coined that one. I call that a blanket excuse but no excuses need when you have 4runner with a 30in lift and 33s(after all it has fiberglass fenders and a nerf bar things you can use to jack up the whole truck). I bet it ran over everything, forward and reverse, in two wheel drive all while be unaffected by your bad luck. If reading comprehension serves me correctly, the thing was soo awesome that it plain out made wheeling boring! The guys running lowrider buggies w/47in tires, built LS6s, rockwells, four links, 4 wheel steer probably only wheel for the scenery.

Do us a favor, and share some pictures of you and your rig that you "built" on these monster obstacles. Since we have seen 14 pictures of your Fox stickers, pictures of your porcshe and various driveway pictures I am confident you do not lack pictures to prove your wheeling prowess.

Please educate yourself instead of continuing to look like an idiot. You will find picture after picture of H2s on obtacles that have plenty of youtube videos of other trucks flopping. Amazingly the H2 is able to tackle these obstacles without breaking! This isnt about ifs vs sfa, this about you talking about something you have no clue. The content of your post makes it evident that you have spent little to no time in the actual wheeling world.

[guruerror]

Boss Hoss, please quit bullsh!ttin' and tell'em how you really feel...lol.

[charles06]

Wow. I'm not sure what to even say to that. Sorry, I made you angry? Is that better? Not quite sure why you're so upset at me. I feel like everything I write, you either misread, misunderstand, misinterpret, or some other "mis". And calling me an "idiot"? Again, I'll be the bigger person here.

I never wrote my 4Runner was better than anything else out there. I simply stated that with that truck, same as any other truck, it had its limits, and that I didn't intend to flip the truck to enjoy it. I DID need to drive it still. Sorry, I don't have any pictures of it off-road. Last time I took it off-road was 10 years ago. I think the new owner still uses it, though. Didn't think I'd need pictures someday to prove to someone that I used it.

I've seen pictures and videos of Hummers off-road. I never said they weren't capable. I DO own one, big guy. I DO believe you guys, and your pictures and videos. The comments about it getting old fast were not made because I think the Hummer wouldn't do anything exciting. Again, I BELIEVE YOU. I've seen the pictures and videos where it makes other trucks look silly. I just don't have an interest in taking chances of breakage, or other damage, anymore. My 4Runner had its "battle scars", and I don't feel like doing that to my Hummer. Honest to God, I would enjoy going with you guys who choose to use your truck that way. It'd be fun, and I'm sure I'd be even more impressed.

I'm sorry you feel that I have no "education" in the world of off-roading. Honestly, I like educate myself in many different areas, not just off-roading. Hence, the sports car. No, I probably don't know as much as you about some of this stuff. But you know what, I don't give a $hit. I know enough to enjoy my trucks (past, present, and future), and enough to enjoy other aspects of the automobile industry. But, you probably know more about those aspects too. So please, enlighten me....

[Boss Hoss]

I do not appreciate you acting like you are a rock crawlin fool who builds rigs and then puts down the capability of the H2. Dont act like you didnt say you built your rig, you won rock crawling competitions and the H2 would be owned by your rig.

Truth be told, I have found it true that you did not build your rig, have not wheeled ANY rig much less a 4runner but for some reason you feel you should offer your .02. I will be glad to use your own words to prove you to be an idiot if you want me to. Otherwise you should say the following an bow out of any "wheeling" conversation:

"I, Charles06 would like to appologize to thos H2 owners who came before me and proved the H2 offroad ability. I am sorry for acting like anyone should believe my OPINION on wheeling becasue I really do not have any experience and am just talking out of my mouth."

[charles06]

Man, did we really get off on the wrong foot. And I feel I'm more to blame than you. I've gone back and read some of what we've written to see where this got so misconstrued. Some, I understand. Some, not so much.

Sorry, I didn't build my rig myself. I did some, my friends helped, and I had a shop do most of the harder work. I meant "built" in the same way someone does when they say they "built their house in 2002". They didn't physically build their own house...

Like I said, you're misreading much of what I write. I NEVER acted like a "rock crawlin fool". I NEVER put down the H2. And, reread above, I said I entered ONE competition and came out ahead. It was small, though. Hell, it was hard to even find an RTI ramp where I lived. I later realized that owning such a one-dimensional vehicle wasn't what I wanted, so I sold it.

I wrote my 4Runner would own MY Hummer, not Hummers in general. I do realize that some of the things I've done make my H2 less than optimal for off-roading. I still feel that my 4Runner was better set up than MY H2 for that kind of thing. And, if for no other reason, I didn't care as much about putting a scratch down the side of it.

I'm not sure how to prove that I did a bit of off-roading when I was younger. Not sure why you don't believe me. Because I have a FOX sticker on my truck? Because I own a Porsche? That's fair. No, I've never done Moab, Tellico, Badlands, etc. Those were very far from me when I lived in Ohio. And I didn't have the time when I was getting my master's degree in Pennsylvania. I had to make due with what we could find in Ohio.

I understand there's a park in Ocala, and a Hummer club goes there on occasion. Have you been there? I met a gentleman who goes by big2dabank on HummeXClub who told me about it. He made it sound like people don't go as much anymore, though.

[HumminNBoatin']

People go to Ocala All the time. Look up Hal Dilworth on FB. In fact he was at Ocala today.

[charles06]

Good to hear. I don't have a FB account, though. Do you know if he's on these, or any other, forums? And did he go with a group? I've seen a few of the pictures from their outings, and it looks like a good time.

Thanks for the help.