The 'customization' thread

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by tiny2012

i'm still waiting for 0ne of them to jump in a chevy volt and go cross country to a fundraiser,but they can't,the big news could be gm is offering a natural gas option,just nowhere to buy it.....still the big news though....

volt wasnt intended for that. it was made for the commuter...they did studies showing the average distance people travel to work. it ended up being like 60 miles daily is the average. so they made the car run on electric for up to 60 or 80 miles before the generator kicks in. it wasnt intended for cross country touring.

[tyler1bo]

That's like the fisker. I believe the porsche employee said that the fisker will only go so far on battery (and it wasnt far) then it ran on regular fuel.

[2010_5thgen]

and isnt the fisker solar powered generator? im not sure exactly how it works, but im sure they dont sell too many fiskers in seattle or england.

[s_c5519]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

volt wasnt intended for that. it was made for the commuter...they did studies showing the average distance people travel to work. it ended up being like 60 miles daily is the average. so they made the car run on electric for up to 60 or 80 miles before the generator kicks in. it wasnt intended for cross country touring.

The Volt is supposed to do about 35 miles on the battery before the engine kicks in. Some have reported 40+ miles on a single charge, but that is under optimum conditions, warm weather, slow driving and braking, not using ac/heat, or power windows etc...

I had one last year, only put 800 miles on and sold it. I was driving it here in New England in about 40 degree temps and was getting about 15 miles per charge. I can't imagine how bad it would have been if it was colder...

[2010_5thgen]

And they did testing for that stuff. Why would it be so horrible? They did years and years of testing, including cold weather testing. That's weird. I'd rather just buy a Eco cruze if I'm looking to get better mpg. My buddies gets close to 50 on the highway.

[s_c5519]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

And they did testing for that stuff. Why would it be so horrible? They did years and years of testing, including cold weather testing. That's weird. I'd rather just buy a Eco cruze if I'm looking to get better mpg. My buddies gets close to 50 on the highway.

I'm sure that's a big part of the reason why GM put the Volt production on halt today. The battery mileage just isn't there yet on it, and people ain't buying... I think the Nissan Leaf battery gets 70-80 miles, but theres no engine to kick in after that... So that stinks too...

[tyler1bo]

I think diesel is the future. Batteries will only go so far.

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by tyler1bo

I think diesel is the future. Batteries will only go so far.

diesel is already here....i just dont understand why we dont have it and its huge in europe.....probably politics im sure.

[guruerror]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

diesel is already here....i just dont understand why we dont have it and its huge in europe.....probably politics im sure.

I've always wondered the same thing. We put diesels in work trucks, but nothing else. Makes me wonder if it has something to do with how it's refined and where we have to get the crude from...dunno, haven't really looked in to.

Diesel does seem to be the way to go, though. For sure my next truck will be 'making all that racket' (as my grandmother puts it). No more full-size gassers for me.

Although...you really can beat the sound of a big ole American V8...

[2010_5thgen]

I think the only diesel cars we have here are a few Volkswagen models and a mercedes. But in Europe they have all kinds of diesel cars. Getting 30+ mpg no problem. And that's out of large sedans. But you pay more for diesel at the pump. I'm sure people will love the mpg but then they'll complain about the money they have to she'll out at the pump

[guruerror]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

I think the only diesel cars we have here are a few Volkswagen models and a mercedes. But in Europe they have all kinds of diesel cars. Getting 30+ mpg no problem. And that's out of large sedans. But you pay more for diesel at the pump. I'm sure people will love the mpg but then they'll complain about the money they have to she'll out at the pump

But I bet if you do the math it all washes out anyway...more at the pump per gallon, but more miles for each gallon. Kinda reverse from how E85 was/is...less at the pump per gallon, but you get less MPG.

[tyler1bo]

My mom has a 2012 BMW X5 with a diesel in it. It will flat haul and gets in the high 20's in gas mileage. And diesel is about the exact same as premium gas where I live. And I'm sure it's politics..America is absolutely retarded when it comes to oil. We could easily drill our own but instead we keep doing the same sh!t we always do. Depend on someone else.