Bilsteins installed....

[Patriot]

Ken...It's definitely NOT firm. I drove about 150 miles yesterday and stand by my first impressions. The nose dive is worse for me and after a real hard stop you get a slight rock...that should tell you it's not firm. I feel like a pimp in a Cadillac.

I had 11,000 miles on my OEM's. I'd go down a back road and damn near loose a filling. The new shocks make those same roads a LOT better. So, you get a smoother ride at the sacrifice of a little firmness. It all depends what you are looking for.