Who Killed The Electric Car?

[DDWH]

It's the Hummers fault

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[DennisAJC]

Apperantly we're going down as the biggest blunders of the automotive industry.

Giggity!

[PARAGON]

stupid, just stupid.

Trying to re-write history.

They had no payload capacity, no range, no crash worthiness, and I can't remember what all else.

[DarthKarl]

It's that darn free market economy that killed it. A true outrage! Consumers voting with their pocket books! My God, this cannot be allowed...what were we all thinking?!?

I dream of the day that my government can decide what is best for me and more importantly what is best for society.

Viva Castro!

[KenP]

Originally Posted by DarthKarl

I dream of the day that my government can decide what is best for me and more importantly what is best for society.

Viva Castro!

[deserth3]

yellow power day...
Please turn your AC to 76 if not at home
Do not run dish washer between 10am and 8 PM

Please do not plug your car into an already overloaded powergrid... The coal fired power generating plants can not handle the load.

And we do not want a red air quality day because of the extra coal needed.

Again we are only trading one form of polution for another. Tree huggers seem to think electricity arives at the outlet by the process of J.F.M.

I'm sure the idiot who made this film is very proud of him or herself.

[f5fstop]

As being part of the EV1 service team, there were many things that killed the EV1, but primarily....
No range, even with the later NiMH batteries, and driving like you had an atomic trigger under the accelerator pedal, the max range was 150 miles.
Recharge from dead to full was four hours, but that was only with the stationary 240V charger, the 120V charger in the trunk took up to 18 hours.
Two, no one wanted to set up an infrastruture for any electric vehicles.

The lease on any EV1 included the 240V charger, that was installed at your house, so if you commuted 30 or 40 miles a day, it was ok. Taking it cross-country was not a real option.

We had two EV1s in the engineering center in TN, and we drove them quite a bit. Then again, we had four 240V chargers back at the engineering center for a "quick" 4-hour charge.

One thing nice, no one ever stole one....

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by deserth3

yellow power day...
Please turn your AC to 76 if not at home
Do not run dish washer between 10am and 8 PM

Please do not plug your car into an already overloaded powergrid... The coal fired power generating plants can not handle the load.

too funny

Sorry boss. I couldn't come into work today because there was a blackout, power outage, storms last night, etc.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by deserth3

yellow power day...
... The coal fired power generating plants can not handle the load.

And we do not want a red air quality day because of the extra coal needed.

Again we are only trading one form of polution for another. Tree huggers seem to think electricity arives at the outlet by the process of J.F.M.

I'm sure the idiot who made this film is very proud of him or herself.

Exactly. I read a while back that an electric car actually produced MORE pollution than a comparable one with an internal combustion engine. This makes sense. An internal combustion engine converts essentially raw fuel into energy to drive the vehicle. When you convert one form of energy into another, there is always some energy lost - because, in the practical world, a transfer of one form of energy to another involves some inneficiency. For example, if you had a gasoline powered electric plant (hypothetically), when the gas was burned, there would be a reduction in its energy relative to the electricity converted at the plant. This would then be reduced further when transmitted accross the wires. Again when converted into battery power in the vehicle. And again when converting it into the power to drive the car. Essentially you have multiple reductions in the energy contained in the original fuel rather than simply the one instance in burning it inside the internal combustion engine. I'm probably mistating or oversimplifying a little (of course the gasoline must be transferred to the gas pump as well), but that's the basic flaw with electric cars: Extral fuel must be burned, creating even more pollution, than if you just burned fuel inside the engine.

[dеiтайожни]

Another thing people are conveniently forgetting is... what happened to the electric cars in Jurassic Park? They got ****ed up by a dinosaur! Then our pal internal combustion had to come to the rescue.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни

Another thing people are conveniently forgetting is... what happened to the electric cars in Jurassic Park? They got ****ed up by a dinosaur! Then our pal internal combustion had to come to the rescue.

Another good point!

[HummBob]

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни

Another thing people are conveniently forgetting is... what happened to the electric cars in Jurassic Park? They got ****ed up by a dinosaur! Then our pal internal combustion had to come to the rescue.

[Bully13]

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни

Another thing people are conveniently forgetting is... what happened to the electric cars in Jurassic Park? They got ****ed up by a dinosaur! Then our pal internal combustion had to come to the rescue.

Damn dinosaurs. There aughta be a law...

[31_bandits]

There are a rash of enviro-oriented mockumentaries lately, it seems. Perhaps the media is reacting to peoples growing disdain of its propaganda by pressing even harder. Or maybe Al Gore just can't get over losing in 2000, i don't know.

I think a true plug-in electric car and a windmill would be cool. Or better yet a treadmill to charge the car. I'd get a bumper sticker that said "piss on all y'all, my wife is really thin and i don't need your silly little Conoco"

But on a more serious note, take it to the bank: if hybrids or plug-ins ever get popular, the "in-thing" among enviromentalists will one day be freaking out about all the batteries nuclear-waste style.

[Agriv8r]

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