MOAB GOING BYE BYE ?????

[MarineHawk]

You guys should learn to love mother nature rather than trying to abuse it with your obscenely massive machines.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

You guys should learn to love mother nature rather than trying to abuse it with your obscenely massive machines.

Does that comment come with a letter to your Senator and Congressmen??

[Sewie]

Why don't these fawkers worry about their own states?!?!?

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by Sewie

Why don't these fawkers worry about their own states?!?!?

everyone wants to fhuk with the Moab that would be the biggest economic disaster for our lil town . where would the jeepers go and who will buy my wood . thanx to the jeepers i had a $1,700.00 week when my average week is about $300.00 granted i only have to work 2 to 3 days

[usetosellhummer]

sent! It better stay open long enough for me to wheel it

[NEOCON1]

i just sent him this from his web site


dear senator ,
i live in Moab and love to 4-wheel . i think that your plan to stop us is terrible . why dont you fix your state instead of trying to get the sierra club vote .
My friends and I are great stewards of the land and think it is as important to the current generations as future ones .
sincerly , steve clark , Moab Utah

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

i just sent him this from his web site


dear senator ,
i live in Moab and love to 4-wheel . i think that your plan to stop us is terrible . why dont you fix your state instead of trying to get the sierra club vote .
My friends and I are great stewards of the land and think it is as important to the current generations as future ones .
sincerly , steve clark , Moab Utah

I'm mostly joking here Neo, but you should probably punctuate differently when you write a U.S. Senator. Otherwise, he'll figure you're just going to pull the wrong lever in the booth anyway.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

thanx to the jeepers i had a $1,700.00 week when my average week is about $300.00 granted i only have to work 2 to 3 days

Bastard!

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by Sewie

Why don't these fawkers worry about their own states?!?!?

Because everybody else's business is more interesting.

[HummBebe]

SUWA - America's Red Rock Wilderness Act
http://www.suwa.org/site/PageServer?pagename=work_arwa

Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance

Quote:
America's Red Rock Wilderness Act

America's Red Rock Wilderness Act seeks to serve the public interest by permanently protecting more than 9 million acres of wilderness-quality land in Utah. The proposal, based on an exhaustive field inventory conducted by citizen volunteers, was first introduced in Congress by former Utah Representative Wayne Owens in 1989. Representative Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) assumed the role of House sponsor in 1993 and Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) introduced the Senate version in 1997.

With each new Congress (every two years), the bill has been reintroduced with steadily increasing bipartisan support. The 110th Congress represents a real opportunity to gather the support and momentum needed to hold congressional hearings and ultimately pass America?s Red Rock Wilderness Act. Our goal is to reach 218 House cosponsors of the bill (more than half the House membership) -- an important step in passing this legislation.

All lands proposed for wilderness designation in America's Red Rock Wilderness Act are owned by the American public and administered by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The bill is supported by SUWA, the Wasatch Mountain Club, the Sierra Club, The Wilderness Society, the Natural Resources Defense Council, and more than 200 other national and regional conservation organizations belonging to the Utah Wilderness Coalition.
Here is the text of the House Bill HR1774
http://www.suwa.org/site/DocServer/A....pdf?docID=682

And the Senate S882
http://www.suwa.org/site/DocServer/A....pdf?docID=683

These are last bills, this years bill are not yet available.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Does that comment come with a letter to your Senator and Congressmen??

Laugh all you want. You guys are going to wear down Moab with your aired-down tires and violent skid plates until it looks like this:

[K9sH3]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

You guys should learn to love mother nature rather than trying to abuse it with your obscenely massive machines.

Hey, out of all of us, You should know who to speak with and to whom we should really be directing our energy.
Please lend a hand in this... I know you know who I know.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by K9sH3

Hey, out of all of us, You should know who to speak with and to whom we should really be directing our energy.
Please lend a hand in this... I know you know who I know.

My firm is primarily a lobbying firm, though I'm a litigator. They are some of the best at what they do, but they're all way overworked with clients paying them upwards of $700/hr. They're about as likely to put on overalls and repair my roof as they are to do some free lobbying work for me. Unfortunately, spending money is the only way to get lobbying done. And I mean lots of it.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

My firm is primarily a lobbying firm, though I'm a litigator. They are some of the best at what they do, but they're all way overworked with clients paying them upwards of $700/hr. They're about as likely to put on overalls and repair my roof as they are to do some free lobbying work for me. Unfortunately, spending money is the only way to get lobbying done. And I mean lots of it.

Give them the heads up.......Moab Partmership could be giving them a call.


Speaking of Lobby:

It occured to me that the "Big 3" all have a stake in this. GM, Chrysler and Ford have all sunk a ton of money into developing off road capable vehicles. How likely would it be that we could enlist them for help in this fight?

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Give them the heads up.......Moab Partmership could be giving them a call.


Speaking of Lobby:

It occured to me that the "Big 3" all have a stake in this. GM, Chrysler and Ford have all sunk a ton of money into developing off road capable vehicles. How likely would it be that we could enlist them for help in this fight?

I think we need to create a fund enlisting all of the like-minded interests. I'll contribute.

[HummBebe]

So, in your professional opinion, which of the org. listed here are the most effective?

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=24388


Blue Ribbon Coalition seems to have one of the only attorneys, USA-ALL, I think has the best organisation, I just wish they were national.

[f5fstop]

It appears to me that this law would prevent the disabled from driving out and seeing the country in their handicapped equipped Hummer. It may sound silly, but it might work, if they take away any areas that are currently accessible via a road.

(I would write my senators, but neither will read any of my emails or letters. Carl Levin and Debbie Stabbanow, two of the biggest Liberal POS senators on the planet. I have written them about illegal aliens, gun control, how unions SUCK, and lately, I have stopped receiving replies.)

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

So, in your professional opinion, which of the org. listed here are the most effective?

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=24388

I hate to cynically oversimplify, and I might be overlooking something, but I'd say the best bet is/are the one(s) that can raise the most money. E.g., the N.R.A. gets what it wants because it spends truckloads of cash it raises from members on campaigns and issue-specific lobbying. The guys I work with know the right people and methods to get things through Congress--I work on the same floor as a former U.S. Senator who knows this game like the back of his hand. There are other good lobbying shops as well. But they all sell their highly-specialized skills and connections for ridiculously-high fees. The former Senator left the U.S. Senate because he could make $zillions doing this kind of thing. If you pay guys like that a sh!t wad of money, they will push your cause effectively. That's the only real lobbying trick I know. Though there may be other ways to go about it. I'm just a lowly litigator from Kansas.

[frenzy1]

lose the trucks !!!!

[NEOCON1]

you probably scared the intern that reads these to death