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Old 05-22-2007, 08:06 AM
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IMHO you are better off with the factory air box and filter in the long run .

I know there is an overwhelming desire for car owners to customize and 'enhance' the performance of their rides, but I've always had a hard time believing that the aftermarket kits can have more engineering in them than OEM's with their army of high-paid engineers and main frame computers crunching the numbers. Granted, much of a vehicle's design is a compromise knowing that different people will be buying and driving the vehicle. But still, other than the cosmetic altering to taste that we all do with wheels, etc., it's got to be a pretty big deal with a proven track record for me to consider changing anything mechanical on my H2. Nowadays everything is tied together somehow inside the onboard computers and changing something can have unexpected (and costly) unplanned consequences.

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I know there is an overwhelming desire for car owners to customize and 'enhance' the performance of their rides, but I've always had a hard time believing that the aftermarket kits can have more engineering in them than OEM's with their army of high-paid engineers and main frame computers crunching the numbers. Granted, much of a vehicle's design is a compromise knowing that different people will be buying and driving the vehicle. But still, other than the cosmetic altering to taste that we all do with wheels, etc., it's got to be a pretty big deal with a proven track record for me to consider changing anything mechanical on my H2. Nowadays everything is tied together somehow inside the onboard computers and changing something can have unexpected (and costly) unplanned consequences.

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I completely agree!!! haha
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:27 PM
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Building a motor for the Baja 500 and building a motor to survive beyond 100,000 miles are two completely different things.

The test don't lie but if you want to think you're doing your vehicle a favor using an inferior filter, be my guest.

Use the K&N and you can say, MORE DIRT LESS POWER
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Mdoyle, you have done a steller job trying to educate the ignorant,but the truely stupid will never learn .great job .
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:52 PM
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Well I could say I'm just about anything on the net and get away with it, but the fact is I'm an Engineer. Just look up a few of my post- nobody in their right mind would post boring technical crap otherwise.

I campaigned a car for three years at KCIR and have built both small and big block Chevy's along with working on a couple of Ford projects.

About the only thing I can't stand more than snake oil health cure-alls is snake oil go-fast parts, that's all.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:42 AM
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Wow, you f'up the install, get crap in your motor from sucking in some dirt from the mangled tube and blame the filter? As I stated above, the Airaid factory replacement along with the MIT have been on my H2 for 40K. The tube & tb are very clean, no dirt or oil.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:22 AM
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K&N would be my 4thor5th choice in a pinch ,I would like to keep most of the dirt out of the engine as I will be travleing on dirt roads and trails a good bit . so paper or foam seams a better choice .
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K&N FILTERS and INTAKES are a RACE & ROAD proven mod.They have been around for years and many people stand behind this product.They also do not void the factory warranty on any vehicle that uses one...I use a K&N system and am very happy what it has done for my truck......MORE AIR MORE POWER...

You're challenging the credentials of others...where are your credentials? And where's the dyno chart showing prrof of your "MORE POWER"? Mechanic or not, the only proof is in a dyno chart.

One other thing...just because some racer has a K&N sticker on his race truck doesn't mean he's using their product. Ever hear of sponsorships? As an example, in AMA Superbike racing, you can't swing a stick and not hit a bike without a K&N decal on it. Want to know what kind of filter the top guys run in AMA Superbike? Uh, none, they don't use filters.
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No one is challenging anybody but U...AMA SUPERBIKES do not use filters because????????BECAUSE MORE AIR MORE POWER......HEY TXSUT THANKS FOR HELPING ME GETTING GET MY POINT ACROSS.......

Asking someone if they are a mechanic is challenging their credentials in my book.

Where did I say flowing more air cannot equate to more power?

And yes, I am challenging you to back up your claims of more power. Surely, you don't expect everyone to just bow down and believe you just because you say it...and because you see a lot of decals on race vehicles.
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R YOUR BRAIN AND FINGERS WORKING TOGETHER??????.DO U LISTEN 2 YOURSELF WHEN U TYPE?????HERE LET ME GET MY STICK.....

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BECAUSE MORE AIR MORE POWER......

Not always true. You have to have the fuel also. more air, and not enough fuel is not more power....(Let me get my stick)
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we all start ignorant on a subject untill the facts are made clear to us ,than all but the enlightened are in fact stupid and unable to learn or grasp the facts. if you belive an open element air filter that draws it's air from a heat soaked engine compartment is better than a system where you draw colder outside air in there is nothing more to say. I just hate to see folks being hoodwinked by bogus claims of more power and better fule milage .if you like it because it looks kool when you pop your hood and show your buddys that's kool with me .I was shocked in 1965 to see Smokey's 1965 chevell (NASCAR) with a sealed air induction that sucked air in from the vents at the base of the windshield .THAT SMOKEY KNEW HIS **** . you want to guess why he didn't run a system that got it's air from a hot engine compartment . ?
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HEY OLD MAN! GET YOUR HEAD STRAIGHT.....HAVE U EVER HEARD OF A HEAT SHEILD???????

HEY, LITTLE BOY. I BEFORE E EXCEPT AFTER C.
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Old man,I take that as a compliment .and yes I have heard of a heat sheld and have not seen one that will work as well as a fully sealed system . I have also heard of a dyno and a thermomiter and have tested (on my 2005 Chevy 2500 hd with a Dmax ) and no shield available worked as well as the stock air box from a 2006 that I retrofited to my 2005. It must be nice to be young and know everything .and by the way this 56 year old man can say with pride that not a day goes by that I cant learn something new . just for fun light a cig and put it iside of your choice of shields and see if you dont see smoke escape . and by the way Carol Shelby is an old man too ,mayby you know more than him too .
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K&N FILTERS and INTAKES are a RACE & ROAD proven mod.They have been around for years and many people stand behind this product.They also do not void the factory warranty on any vehicle that uses one...I use a K&N system and am very happy what it has done for my truck......MORE AIR MORE POWER...

Exactly. Maybe he's just imagining that he's having intake problems with the K&N filter. If having a K&N filter doesn't void the warranty, then all he has to do is take it to the dealer and let them figure it out. Won't cost him a dime.
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