BRC in Depth

[HummBebe]

Sierra Club
85 Second Street, San Francisco, CA 94105
Phone 415-977-5500 | Fax 415-977-5799 | Email information@sierraclub.org





Finances

for tax year ending 12/31/2004

Income $91,843,757.00
Expenditures $90,195,947.00
End-Of-Year Net Worth $53,339,819.00

Tax Status501(c)4

91 million vs $561K now that's scary.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Sierra Club
85 Second Street, San Francisco, CA 94105
Phone 415-977-5500 | Fax 415-977-5799 | Email information@sierraclub.org





Finances

for tax year ending 12/31/2004

Income $91,843,757.00
Expenditures $90,195,947.00
End-Of-Year Net Worth $53,339,819.00

Tax Status501(c)4

91 million vs $561K now that's scary.

Not really. Businesswise, Sierra Club is a financially well honed corporate monster now.

What I find scary is the BRC's payroll in relation to it's public donations and income. That's a scary burn-rate.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Not really. Businesswise, Sierra Club is a financially well honed corporate monster now.

What I find scary is the BRC's payroll in relation to it's public donations and income. That's a scary burn-rate.

They have eight employees and one attorney. Thats not much is it.

So now they are a grass roots org, yes? With that kind of "burn rate" they couldn't possibly stay afloat if they did not have all those volunteers.

And your numbers ... if you want to use an actual 'burn rate" should be 1 million to 232k....right?

Not to mention BRC is a 501(c)3....Sierra Club is a 501(c)4

[HummBebe]

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Acceptable and very proportionate for the size of the organization.




Sierra Club = $92 Million Dollars - 2.5% to Administration costs.

BRC = $1 Million Dollars - 22% to Administration costs.


I'm trying to simplify it as best as I can, but can you see what is wrong with this picture?

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Acceptable and very proportionate for the size of the organization.




Sierra Club = $92 Million Dollars - 2.5% to Administration costs.

BRC = $1 Million Dollars - 22% to Administration costs.


I'm trying to simplify it as best as I can, but can you see what is wrong with this picture?

nope....I can't.

I see a small org out there trying to make a difference.

That's what I see.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

nope....I can't.

I see a small org out there trying to make a difference.

That's what I see.

Well it won't go far if your bartender is drinking all the booze.

[Greg Mumm]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Acceptable and very proportionate for the size of the organization.




Sierra Club = $92 Million Dollars - 2.5% to Administration costs.

BRC = $1 Million Dollars - 22% to Administration costs.


I'm trying to simplify it as best as I can, but can you see what is wrong with this picture?

Actually, yes I can see what is wrong with this picture. But, it is the polar opposite of what you are getting at obviously.

Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what is wrong with putting as much as possible back out on the ground working for your people? After all, that is why they joined and donated. They want people out there working for them. This is an advocacy organization.

This is also why we are constantly under attack... because we are getting things done. We are putting our folks' money to work and that requires people to do it. We are doing it as efficiently as possible. If I had their budget, you would still see the same percentages if not higher. People out there working is how you get the job done. We are not about being a big business monster. We are about advocating for recreation.

Greg