BRC in Depth

[Greg Mumm]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

I guess those numbers don't include the numerous lawsuits won by BRC?




$561,815.00 in direct public support. $284,689.00 in membership fees. $232,450.00 in Salaries

That's quite disturbing. Impressive burn rate.



Hey Bebes, out of curiosity, are you on BRC's payroll or do you recieve any financial comphensation?

Yes those numbers do include all of our funding including legal actions.

Impressive burn rate? Disturbing? What is disturbing about that? Our top payed position is only $70k a year. It takes good people to get done what we are getting done on behalf of recreation. And we are getting a great deal done as is obvious from the attacks we keep getting from the other side. We have 7 full-time people, 1 part-time person and 4 contractors along with a host of volunteers across this nation. I would say if you do the math that is not burn rate by any stretch. On the contrary, we are frugal and act in good stewardship with the donor's money. Check out what the other side has in that department.

No Bebes is not counted as one of our paid staff although I am quite familiar with her volunteer efforts to that end...

Greg

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by Greg Mumm

And we are getting a great deal done as is obvious from the attacks we keep getting from the other side.

"You can measure your level of success by amount of people you've pissed off"

- Bebe

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

"You can measure your level of success by amount of people you've pissed off"

- Bebe

Again,

Sierra Club has pissed off millions of people.

BRC has pissed off none. 3 or 4 people were just shaking their heads at how poorly it's being run, asking questions.

By how it reads, It seems you and Greg are slightly, if not pissed off, angry and defensive.

That quote does not apply to BRC.

[HummBebe]

[DennisAJC]

[HummBebe]

no....you

for your lack of being able to have a conversation versus doing nothing but making inflammitory accusations.

At least Ken and CP are being civil.

[HummBebe]

PS Dennis, you asked a question and we answered. Ken asked and we answered. How is that defensive?

[Greg Mumm]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Again,

Sierra Club has pissed off millions of people.

BRC has pissed off none. 3 or 4 people were just shaking their heads at how poorly it's being run, asking questions.

By how it reads, It seems you and Greg are slightly, if not pissed off, angry and defensive.

That quote does not apply to BRC.

You are quite right. I am necessarily in a defensive posture. I and the organization I represent have stood accused unrighteously.

In the face of statements like, "...just shaking their heads at how poorly it's being run..." I thought I was being fairly civil. You surely realize that it is my job to see that it is run efficiently and you have just insulted me unabashedly. Yes, that makes me angry at some level and yes that makes me defensive. More importantly however, I'm still here trying to answer your questions whether they are well founded or not. I really do care about what the grassroots thinks and we really are sincere in trying to make a difference.

Greg

[Greg Mumm]

HummBebe-

I believe I will step away for now. Thank you for the opportunity to try to answer to what BRC is constantly accused of.

Don't hesitate to contact us if there is anything we can do or if there are more questions.

Greg Mumm

PS. I learned something here today.

[HummBebe]

Greg, thank you, for your time and your service to the off road community.

I hope this was a good "I learned something" and not a bad "I learned something".

Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

Bebe

[DennisAJC]

At the very least, we were able to bring some attention to the Land use Forum. It's a freakin ghost town in here.

Glad you learned something Greg. Good luck to you.

If you need any strategy or marketing advice, let me know.

[DennisAJC]

I'm pointing out irregularities and comparisons.

You guys shouldn't get your panties in a knot. You should use it to answer the question as to why you're miserably losing the battle.


Are you guys formulating a strategy even? Or just reactive as they come along(Another question so take a deep breath.)?





Like most people here, When I look at donating to an non-profit organization, I research first. When I see the "taking" disproportionate with the "giving",

I WON'T DONATE. And by the looks of it, alot here won't either.

Now let me ask you, how's the donations coming along?

People are donating LAND to Seirra Club. How's things going with you guys?



You definitely need restructuring and a strategy. If you deny that too, you've already lost.



Some people can't handle the truth or advice. That's why you a Jac are freakin out.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by 03H3

I can't believe I read through this whole thing.

Dennis makes his arguments again, I guess some people see what he's talking about, but for the life of me I can't figure out what he's trying to say. I guess he's just so much smarter than I am that it completely escapes me (like all the other flaming liberal intellectuals).

Defending the Sierra Club or any other militant eviro-mental organization, while claiming you are looking out for the right to drive off road vehicles, flies in the face of reason.

If the thing seems to appear to defy common sense, it probably does.

Sales pitch all you want Dennis, when you write-I feel like I'm being sold something.

I've already donated to the USA-All to fight the whack-jobs in the SUWA, and now that I've read through this, I'm gonna send money to BRC. Because I want to, not because they sold it to me.

HAHAHA!!! Not surprised why you guys whine how expensive things are.

So noble running to the aid and possibly partake on some e-patting on the back.

Even a small child can understand the simplicity of my statement. I'll post it again. Read slooooower OK?

If you still don't get it, then yes, I am smarter than you.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

I'm pointing out irregularities and comparisons.

You guys shouldn't get your panties in a knot. You should use it to answer the question as to why you're miserably losing the battle.

Are you guys formulating a strategy even? Or just reactive as they come along(Another question so take a deep breath.)?

Like most people here, When I look at donating to an non-profit organization, I research first. When I see the "taking" disproportionate with the "giving",

I WON'T DONATE. And by the looks of it, alot here won't either.

Now let me ask you, how's the donations coming along?

People are donating LAND to Seirra Club. How's things going with you guys?



You definitely need restructuring and a strategy. If you deny that too, you've already lost.



Some people can't handle the truth or advice. That's why you a Jac are freakin out.

And if you kids put your egos and guards aside, you'll realize that people are trying to help. You act all shocked and hurt. We don't live in a perfect world.



Like telling a child to stop picking their nose....

[HummBebe]

The real definition of "Burn Rate"

Burn rate is a synonymous term for negative cash flow. It is a measure for how fast a company will use up its shareholder capital. If the shareholder capital is exhausted, the company will either have to find additional funding or close down.

The term came into common use during the dot-com era when many start-up companies went through several stages of funding before emerging into profitability and positive cash flows and hence becoming self-sustainable (or, as for the majority, failing to find additional funding and sustainable business models and hence going bankrupt). In between funding events, burn rate becomes an important management measure, since it together with the available funds provides a time measure to when the next funding event needs to take place.

Some claim, that part of the reasons behind the dot-com bust, was the unsound management and financial investor practices to keep the burn rate up, taking it as a proxy for how fast the start-up company was acquiring a customer base.

Aside from financing, the term burn rate is also used for projects to determine the rate at which hours (allocated to a project) are being used, to identify when work is going out of scope, or when efficiencies are being lost.

[RuggedH2]

Every time I speak with a crazed liberal, it's the same thing. Insult throwing, name calling, conspiracy based theory only they can see. They're always so much smarter than everybody else, that is why they are the only ones that buy into their crazy B.S.

I just can't figure out why you drive a Hummer Dennis. Then again, I don't care why.

You claim to speak for others, I don't see to many following you anywhere. You contribute little, except the negatives, and that is used to entertain yourself.

Your not particularly funny, and I doubt nearly as successful in business as you claim. I've already seen your marketing prowess compared to leaders in their industry, and you fell way short. Keep on deluding yourself about your impact on others, and by all means please tell us all what we should believe. That really is entertaining.