GM WONT REPAIR MY TRANSMISSION

[NoMoGMPG]

Check your S/C certification for manufacturer compliance. In order for the SEMA act to apply, the component has to pass the manufacturer's maximum specification. If it doesn't say approved for use by GM and will not void your warranty, it most certainly will. This has to do with powertrain components which increase the hp/torque. Don't blame GM for covering its own ass. Warranty costs are high as it is and ALL manufacturers are cracking down on modifications. Most people don't think about the whole picture when they add power, that the u-joints might snap, the trans might burn up, that the axles are too small. If you're going to blame someone, blame yourself for short-sightedness.

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
Check your S/C certification for manufacturer compliance. In order for the SEMA act to apply, the component has to pass the manufacturer's maximum specification. If it doesn't say approved for use by GM and will not void your warranty, it most certainly will. This has to do with powertrain components which increase the hp/torque. Don't blame GM for covering its own ass. Warranty costs are high as it is and ALL manufacturers are cracking down on modifications. Most people don't think about the whole picture when they add power, that the u-joints might snap, the trans might burn up, that the axles are too small. If you're going to blame someone, blame yourself for short-sightedness. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Don"t sugar coat it.

[kdio]

When you installed your supercharger did you buy the $200.00 powertrain warranty from Magna charger? If you did then Magna Charger should cover it.

[Maj.Drew]

Well of course I didnt buy the Magnuson Power Train Warranty... hell I got my supercharger from them for only $3400.00.

And yes, I am still pissed at GM.

And yes I do understand the logic. But riddle me this... so lets say my axle goes (God forbid), or my spline shaft cooks... or anything drive train related... can GM possibly differentiate with reasonable certainty what caused the failure??? Answer - Hell No!!!!

O-rings on a space shuttle.....

Anyhow... My dealer didnt help matters, when they said " I dont know what caused the failure... he's got a supercharger on it... could that be it?" Morons!

Anyhow... I am spending a crap load of money to get the trans rebuilt by Lingenfelters hot shots. Now GM can say.. well now everything Trans related isnt under waranty. Hmmmm so when my shift selector fails... maybe its from the trans, that was caused by the supercharger.

OK.. enough whinning!!!

Just went and test drove an LR3... not bad.... maybe you just might see my H2 on Ebay soon.

Maybe I will defect to the Land Rover Forums.

Damn, I sure wish Tucker was around... I wonder what kind of SUT/SUV/SVA he would have dreamed up?

I did get a in touch with a few of the execs at GM... and I did file a complaint with my States Attorney General, and I did contact SEMA... oh what a busy day I have had.

I will keep you up to date as to the progress. However, it sounds like the guys at

rossler transmissionis really know there stuff. Apparently they just did the H2 for those Harley guys on Discovery - Orange County Choppers... I guess it was on this week.

I wonder what I will blow up next.... any ideas?

Maybe know since the trans is done, I can change my pulley size and make more power.....

[LasVegas]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">OK.. enough whinning!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah..that would be nice. People here are trying to help you. You've got a nice rig with a lot of mods so don't throw it away over one issue. And if you got your supercharger for $3400 you're not to bad off even after the transmission rebuild. Suck it up Maj.

[Harley]

My transfer case went out on my '03 H2 and they covered everything, even gave me an extended wauranty to cover the transfer case...

I wanted to put a supercharger on it later and they said in no uncertain terms that anything connected to the driveline would not be covered in the wauranty.

... so I bought my H1

[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kdio:
When you installed your supercharger did you buy the $200.00 power train warranty from Magna charger? If you did then Magna Charger should cover it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kdio is correct. I just finished reading my Magna charger warranty and everything power train related is covered for 3 years from the date of install. Also if your dealer did the install your covered for an added year. This might be dependent on how much business you've done with them and your attitude toward the whole problem. Either way had you purchased the $200 additional coverage you would be covered. I've also looked at what I got in writing from my dealer and because they sold me the unit, and installed it they are covering the rig bumper to bumper for one additional year after the magna charger warranty ends for parts, I'll have to pay for the labor if something does go wrong.

I hate to admit that you do get overcharged using the dealers services but this is a case of you get what you paid for. Sorry to here you are having trouble.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I visited with someone yesterday about the $200 Magneson warranty and it is worthless if any other mod was done while, before, or after SC was added. Like headers, cold air intake, and many other things that can be added to engine that should have nothing to do with SC. This info came from someone that everyone on here respects to no end so i will not be spending the $200 on additional warranty as He said it is a joke. I have header catback sys. and other things. My best warranty right now is i have a dealer that apparently is determined to look after Me as long as he can and I have not pulled out a 44 mag and shot holes in the block or trany. Like I mentioned the Dealer has within His power to get a person covered by how He writes problem up and turns it in. Mine said they will take care of Me and all I can do at this point is trust them for reasons mentioned already. I do believe though that it had a lot to do with including them in the loop of what i was doing and the reason I was doing it. Maybe it is just My country boy AWWW shucks but, i have seen them put there money where their mouth is on several occasions.
I hope very much you get some help with this problem.
I'm just putting back the money to replace trany in case I do not get the help in the long run.
TAZ

[HUMMERDOGG]

Listen, I love my H2 and all and would love to put a SC in it and put a lift and 40" tires on it but, at the end of the day, I remember that the H2 in its stock form borders on the breaking point with regards to the stock setup-tires and wheels, engine, transmission, etc... The thing is just too damn heavy and just wasn't engineered to have any more horsepower or bigger tires. Now people here may disagree with me, but I am already seeing after only 14K miles on my stock H2 that the transmission is starting to lag, the engine doesn't have quite the same pep that it once did and the steering and suspension is getting all "gimpy"-if you know what I mean. Of course I don't really care since I have it on a Smartbuy and will just give it back to GM and get me an H1.

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj.Drew:
Well of course I didnt buy the Magnuson Power Train Warranty... hell I got my supercharger from them for only $3400.00.

And yes, I am still pissed at GM.

And yes I do understand the logic. But riddle me this... so lets say my axle goes (God forbid), or my spline shaft cooks... or anything drive train related... can GM possibly differentiate with reasonable certainty what caused the failure??? Answer - Hell No!!!!

O-rings on a space shuttle.....

Anyhow... My dealer didnt help matters, when they said " I dont know what caused the failure... he's got a supercharger on it... could that be it?" Morons!

Anyhow... I am spending a crap load of money to get the trans rebuilt by Lingenfelters hot shots. Now GM can say.. well now everything Trans related isnt under waranty. Hmmmm so when my shift selector fails... maybe its from the trans, that was caused by the supercharger.

OK.. enough whinning!!!

Just went and test drove an LR3... not bad.... maybe you just might see my H2 on Ebay soon.

Maybe I will defect to the Land Rover Forums.

Damn, I sure wish Tucker was around... I wonder what kind of SUT/SUV/SVA he would have dreamed up?

I did get a in touch with a few of the execs at GM... and I did file a complaint with my States Attorney General, and I did contact SEMA... oh what a busy day I have had.

I will keep you up to date as to the progress. However, it sounds like the guys at

rossler transmissionis really know there stuff. Apparently they just did the H2 for those Harley guys on Discovery - Orange County Choppers... I guess it was on this week.

I wonder what I will blow up next.... any ideas?

Maybe know since the trans is done, I can change my pulley size and make more power..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Welcome to the lawyers world"It's not my fault someone made me put on the s/c.Not my fault I didn't reseach it first.
Christ no wonder kids are f ed up nobody takes
the blame for there own actions anymore.

[Hummertech]

One other piece of advice for when you have your trans rebuilt. If they replace your 2-4 servo(which is what actuates your 2-4 band) with a Corvette servo, you'll get a much firmer more positive shift. That would help make the band more durable. The only downside is a firmer shift when just cruising around town, but your trans will hold up better. Remember, when your trans is actually shifting, things are slipping, and that is bad for the trans. The faster and harder you can make it shift, the easier it is on the trans.

[Maj.Drew]

Hey, parts guy... Dont worry about a thing.... I researched it well and new the risks... but for an OE to completely absolve themselves from any responsibility on things that have "patter failures" that is another thing.

I am fortunate enough to be here in Detroit, and be very close to the auto industry. Actually I have even heard of a potential "silent recall" on H2 transmissions.

So I mean.. come on at least 50/50.

But hell, why you would make a personal comment about me in a forum is beyond my comprehension - You dont know anything about be, and trust me when I say I have and do take full responsibiliity for all of my actions and decisions.

Go toke another one!

For everyone else on here... the posting was to vent my frustrations, and also to educate others thinking about a SC and other mods.

Information is power.

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj.Drew:
Hey, parts guy... Dont worry about a thing.... I researched it well and new the risks... but for an OE to completely absolve themselves from any responsibility on things that have "patter failures" that is another thing.

I am fortunate enough to be here in Detroit, and be very close to the auto industry. Actually I have even heard of a potential "silent recall" on H2 transmissions.

So I mean.. come on at least 50/50.

But hell, why you would make a personal comment about me in a forum is beyond my comprehension - You dont know anything about be, and trust me when I say I have and do take full responsibiliity for all of my actions and decisions.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You are correct.I am
sorry,But You may have in the heat of fustation
Blamed everything on GM and nothing on the s/c.
There is a reason Manufactures void warrantys
because of add on parts designed to exceed manufactures spec,s.Again Iwas wrong to state
what I did "I don"t know anything about you"I wish you luck.

Go toke another one!<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>By the way
[color:BLUE] TOKE THIScolor]

For everyone else on here... the posting was to vent my frustrations, and also to educate others thinking about a SC and other mods.

Information is power. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
Listen, I love my H2 and all and would love to put a SC in it and put a lift and 40" tires on it but, at the end of the day, I remember that the H2 in its stock form borders on the breaking point with regards to the stock setup-tires and wheels, engine, transmission, etc... The thing is just too damn heavy and just wasn't engineered to have any more horsepower or bigger tires. Now people here may disagree with me, but I am already seeing after only 14K miles on my stock H2 that the transmission is starting to lag, the engine doesn't have quite the same pep that it once did and the steering and suspension is getting all "gimpy"-if you know what I mean. Of course I don't really care since I have it on a Smartbuy and will just give it back to GM and get me an H1. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FWIW, I agree. The H2 is heavy and underpowered. But it's still fun to own one!

[tower]

Ditto H-Doggie
Ditto Roxie

Look, if you want to go big on tires (and especially wheels), unless you’re a mall mouse, you need to beef up the suspension. Otherwise, you'll break tie rods, wear CV joints, etc.

If you torque up with a S/C, you need to beef the tranny (which is pretty hard to do on an H2). If you cant, you will wear through the drivetrain a little faster.

Personally, I think you got screwed. 7k miles on an '05 tranny is BS. I don't care if you have a jet under the hood (unless you drive like a maniac, of course). So suck it up, be really nice to a few dealers and see if anyone is willing to play with you. If not, suck it up and shell it out.

THIS THREAD IS NOW OVER!!!

[SOCRATES]

So I would assume that a lift would compromise the suspension warrany of course, as well as the transmission? If so, I hope I don't have any tranny problems. Yikes!

[NJ H2]

Have the Tranny done by some PROS and make a Small Claims Law Suit against your Dealer and Magna. If you win you get your $ back. Courts seem to favor the customer and since you only have 7000 miles in the charger you might just win!

[Maj.Drew]

Well here is the update...

Decided to keep my H2... just love it too much with the Supercharger. I did look at the Excursion Diesel though.. damn I wish the H2 had the diesel. Hey maybe I will look at the H1 Alpha.... $140K... not bad.. yeah right.

So I ended up sending my transmission to Rossler Transmissions in Ohio.

These are the same guys Rossler Trans who do the Transmissions for Lingenfelter. Carl Rossler was great to work with, and knew the H2 trans well. He built the trans back up for me and got it back in 3 days!!!!

We put the trans back in, and wow... what a difference. It shifts nice and hard through all the gears, and everything runs just great. I did call Magnuson and found they had an updated for my programer, so I took care of that too... had it sent to them and sent back within two days.

Like a new H2 (Supercharged) now!!!

Now... lets see what I will blow up next - the motor or the rear end????

Anyway... I was able to get GM to pay for the labour and my rental... the dealership had me tied up for 4 weeks. God that pickup rental I had was killing me.

Drew

[KenP]

I'm glad things turned out well for you. Too bad it took so long. BTW, no complaints about my trans.